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258 days, 12 hours, 57 minutes ago

robobob

Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still active glory device?

258 days, 12 hours, 32 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

Yes. Provided the FC 'pop' is used or FC 'trg' with the relevant primary enemy set.

'trg' and Kill mission will not explode because the mission needs fuel.

258 days, 12 hours, 26 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

Wrong SNID. Kill woks with non moving ships. Do not move and it works.

258 days, 12 hours, 12 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

http://www.vgaplanets.org/index.php/Glory_device

258 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

> Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still active glory device?

Mostly.

From http://play.planets.nu/#/howtoplay/out-of-fuel
> A starship with a Glory Device can perform all Glory Device actions, according to the Friendly Code.

Based on this:

POP will always work without fuel.
TRG will always work when used with a Primary Enemy.
TRG will work when used with KILL!, as long as the ship doesn't move (resets the mission).

258 days, 11 hours, 21 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

I would be interested to know how and when a ship mission is reset when out of fuel.

Does the host then differentiate between a ship that has lost fuel through moving (or web drain, rob) and one that had no fuel in the first place?

258 days, 11 hours, 5 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

if you had no fuel, and moves under own power,
mission is reset.

If you run out of fuel, while moving under own power, mission is reset.

rob and web drains is a bit harder to test...

258 days, 10 hours, 30 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

> I would be interested to know how and when a ship mission is reset when out of fuel.

That's covered in the beginning of the out-of-fuel page.

http://play.planets.nu/#/howtoplay/out-of-fuel

258 days, 10 hours, 28 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

There's the when, but not the how.

258 days, 8 hours, 4 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

What do you mean by how?

258 days, 5 hours, 12 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

I'm thinking does the host check at various points for fuel and then reset mission if fuel=0?

258 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

a wild guess would be during (mass check,repair, an mkt), an a further timing of which" mass check" would be XLIV in the complete host order , but im guessing . it might could be tested . but thats a guess to . the thing that leads me to that guess is that after every function that could possibly add or remove fuel an various other things there is a mass check.

258 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

Presumably at the point in the host when the action to remove the fuel happens?

Hits web mine, zero fuel then mission gets set to explore.

Moves, move end in no fuel then mission set to explore.

Etc.

If we add every occurrence of every action in the host order it would be 10 times longer.

258 days, 4 hours, 9 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

with a view of the things in host order an then overlay the wasp host order onto it some very valuable things occur in the life of a wasp population right before the trg pop

258 days, 2 hours, 18 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

Or maybe it's when an action requiring fuel is requested and finds its out of fuel so changes the mission to Explore if it has no fuel?

Does a ship without fuel not sweep and keep minsweeping or gain explore?

Does a ship without fuel on minesweeping that moves lose minesweeping if it maintained it while stationary?

258 days, 2 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

@Snid -- We can hope. If not, can you envision an alternative? Perhaps space-monkeys. :o)

@MartinR -- A fuelless ship won't actually do any sweeping, if that's what you're asking.

258 days, 1 hours, 2 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

@Gnerphk

No, just wondering. Kill is cancelled if you move. I was just wondering if other missions get cancelled or they just don't work. Not looked that closely at ships without fuel as I know that most missions don't work.

258 days, 0 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: Am I correct in thinking a fueless Nefarious can still...

Generally, the mission gets reset the moment the client checks to see if there's fuel.