Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

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1580 days, 18 hours, 35 minutes ago

Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

Another tidbit for the rule writers:

Star base Ion Shield only protects your own ships. It doesn't even protect allies. Arrrrgh! Hmmm, wonder what happens if I tow (in place) a non-protected ship?

1580 days, 18 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

Does it protect ships in an alliance? Or are you just talking about share intel?

1580 days, 18 hours, 2 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

Hmmm... I thought this was actually meant to protect allies as well..

1580 days, 17 hours, 38 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

Allies just floated away.

1580 days, 17 hours, 37 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

I figured as much. I was just stating that the solution to your situation must not necessarily be "adjust the rule documentation", but could rather be "fix the ion shield so that it protects allies as well" :)

1580 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

The document has been updated to reflect this limitation of the shield.

http://help.planets.nu/adv-ion-starbase-shield

From a technical point of view, I assume that this would be enforced by not allowing ships of allies to enter the area covered by the shield. It would be useful to verify whether or not this is correct functionality.

1580 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

"Ion Starbase Shield

Ion shielding on starbases enable ships at those starbases to be safe from ion storms. They will not be dragged or damaged, but they will uncloak."

Well that is misleading Advantage. "Enable" makes is sound like I get to choose.

1580 days, 13 hours, 1 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

I'm with you, Glyn. We've updated the site documentation to clarify, but we can't touch the advantage description on the site.

So what do you all think? Should this protect full allies?

1580 days, 11 hours, 7 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

Personally? The way that I would like it to work is as follows:

If it is an advantage that ONLY you have available then it ONLY protects you - not your full ally.

If it is an advantage that your full ally also has available then it also protects them.

Both races have to have it available in order for it to protect both, at any allied planet with a starbase.

1580 days, 10 hours, 42 minutes ago

habakuk

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

IMHO a "Planetary Ion Shield" would make sense if it protects everything that is in its orbit, no matter if it is an ally or enemy or your own ship.

1579 days, 16 hours, 57 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

@Gnerphk,

> So what do you all think?

I think that there's a bug. The description in the client code doesn't match the implementation. This needs to be fixed, either by changing the description in the client code or by changing the implementation.

We've found a few advantages where the description in the client code doesn't match the implementation. This could be easily solved if the advantage descriptions were in the language DB. That would allow us to edit their contents without involving the developers (often a slow process, but better now that Big Beefer' on the job).

Who's willing to create a UserVoice bug on this?

1578 days, 14 hours, 2 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

Taking inspiration from Cinnamon's excellent reporting of Destroy Planet behavior, here is an update.

Another ally has Starbase Ion Shield and his ships are safe at my SB. Therefore, it seems to work this way: If you have starbase ion shield, your ships are safe at starbases, at least SB's of anyone who has SB ion shield. So, it is not actually the starbase providing protection, but that the ships are marked as protected.

Player A: Has SB Ion Shield
Player B: Has SB Ion Shield
Player C: NO SB Ion Shield

So, Player A ships are protected at Player A SB.
Player B ships are protected at Player B SB.
Player A ships are protected at Player B SB.
Player B ships are protected at Player A SB.
Player C ships are NOT protected at Player A SB.
Player C ships are not protected at Player B SB.

Next test:

Are Player A and B ships protected at Player C SB?

Stay tuned for the exciting conclusion of "As My Star base Protects."

1578 days, 9 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

@MJS68508: Great work! If your next test shows A and B safe at C's SB then I think renaming is from "Ion Starbase Shield" to "Ion Storm Tether" and call it a day.

Do A, B, and C have diplomacy settings? Can a bad guy with the same Advantage arrive without fuel and camp at my SB and not be dragged away/damaged by an Ion Storm?

1578 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

A, B, and C are Allies in a Team game.

Hmmmm, are Fascists/Rebels with Planetary Immunity protected if they have SBIS? So many permutations and ramifications.

1576 days, 7 hours, 9 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

So? Any new info?

1576 days, 5 hours, 18 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

@Glyn: "Ion Starbase Shield

Ion shielding on starbases enable ships at those starbases to be safe from ion storms. They will not be dragged or damaged, but they will uncloak."

as stated above, it explicitly states that all ships at a shielded SB are protected from ion storms. period.

GhostWriter

1576 days, 4 hours, 5 minutes ago

RE: Another tidbit for the rule writers: Star base Ion Shield...

@Ghostwriter: But they already finished the soundFX for harpoon that shoots out of the Starbase and pierces through all the ships like a shish-kabob!

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