Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

yea i know my bad, i should not feed the troll. your threads should just simply be ignored.

but making fun on people who actually lack experience with this game and keep asking simple and basic questions is far worse than calling troll a troll.

so, bunnytroll, you cant fool us who have been following your performance over these months. it would be almost art, if it would not start getting transparent over passing time. only thing you need help with is getting your shit wired.

1840 days, 13 hours, 44 minutes ago

frostriese

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

to feed the troll ... can you set two missions for the same vessel -- cloak and lay mines are ship missions?

Cogito, ergo sum ...

1840 days, 13 hours, 42 minutes ago

zavulon

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

I'll bite. Cloaking and minelaying are separate missions of a ship. You cannot chose a single ship to perform more then one mission on any given turn, so no, it is either cloak or lay mines or any other mission that ship can perform. One per turn. you can do cloak - lay mines - cloak. but for at least one turn your ship may be visible.

1840 days, 13 hours, 33 minutes ago

dotman

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It's getting to the point where I'm considering taking 4 hours out of my day to write an 'ignore user' addon...

1840 days, 13 hours, 5 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

-You cannot chose a single ship to perform more then one mission on any given turn, so no-

To clarify: except for missions that are "included" in friendly codes (ie lfm).

1840 days, 12 hours, 50 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Okay np, anyone below Uber that isn't allowed to upset via questions those uberites. (Yea I know my bad, I should not feed the troll. your threads should just simply be ignored.)

But making fun of people who actually lack experience with this game and who keep asking simple and basic questions is, you seem to feel far worse than justifying possible changes or asking what not ca?calling troll a troll I have never said that but would support.

So, (bunnytroll), do I need to drop into insult mode, personal attack mode ? You cant fool us who have been following your performance over these months.

1840 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

How and by what power do you determine Anaconda on a website that you don't own , operate or run, feel you have the right to attack another paying member in such a disrespectful way.? What makes you special ?

1840 days, 12 hours, 42 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

your wrong, theres nothing personal in this.

it is an act from your side, and i am attacking that performance or show or what ever you could call it. how could it be personal when i dont even know who the hell you are (not that i would be interested by an inch) -- and dont come telling us your that "Duane Skutche" fellow who "got laid long before high school" and whos conducting botany research on parasites and bacteria in Canada. really, getting raped does not count.

1840 days, 12 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

yea it is not nice but i am not a nice person

1840 days, 12 hours, 25 minutes ago

ryder cross

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

The answer is no, you can not lay mines and cloak at the same turn. It would be nice and I think it would be cool as a campaign feature for some ships that the Birds own.

1840 days, 12 hours, 3 minutes ago

unknown

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Or cloaked mines, that reveal themselves after 2 or 3 turns, depending on a numerical FC of the Birdship when laying.

This would give the invading Birdship a way to keep it's real location unknown!

1840 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

(so, bunny troll, you cant fool us who have been following your performance over these months. (It would be almost art, if it would not start getting transparent over passing time.) the only thing you need help with is getting your shit wired. Well your ego and self disillusionment is something they should study. As you say, yer are a god onto your self. If it is very obvious players like Anasucks, who are willing to help active members if she wants to, provided she isn't too busy trying to keep this site to her advantage.

1840 days, 11 hours, 52 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Auck.
nna yer the type of gal that at at closing time you rested in the pickup tr

1840 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

*sigh*

1840 days, 11 hours, 50 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Hey look! a squirrel!

*points over yonder*

1840 days, 11 hours, 49 minutes ago

robijntje

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"looks"
Heh, I don't see anything...

1840 days, 11 hours, 46 minutes ago

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Too slow. It already ran off.

Wait! There it is!!

*points over a different yonder*

1840 days, 11 hours, 35 minutes ago

robijntje

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*looks at a different yonder*
starts to look disappointed... 'that's not a squirrel! How do you call that little cute furry rodent with the fuzzy round tail again?'

1840 days, 11 hours, 32 minutes ago

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Skunk?

1840 days, 11 hours, 27 minutes ago

robijntje

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Lol!

1840 days, 10 hours, 48 minutes ago

attercob

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Ninjabunny is not a troll.

NB is obviously just a kid trying to fit in to a forum mostly comprised of adults in there late 30's and older. I look at this thread, and NB asked a perfectly legit question, that coming from anyone else would have been taken seriously, and answered quickly, succinctly, like @Zavulon's response, and this thread could have ended in two responses. Instead @Anaconda came in swinging, and by all definition of troll, became a troll himself. And of course NB took the bait, and we have another 25+ post thread of people hurling insults around.

I've seen all of NB's posts, and that's generally the recurring pattern I observe. Other than being a suggestion that most found ridiculous, or a question that most found obvious, I can't actually find anything innately wrong with any of his opening comments. NB is generally innocuous, until someone comes into his threads and starts throwing insults at him, and gets him riled up. Which is not that unusual of a response.

I'm actually kind of envious of the infamy Ninjabunny has achieved, as he is almost as well known a .Nu member as Gnerphk, Emork, and Thin Lizzy. All of his threads generate lengthy discussions from a myriad of members, If NB is a troll, then he is the most brilliantly successful troll I have ever seen on the internet.

I don't even know why most of the people in this thread even bothered to post anything, as most of you didn't really have much to offer to the conversation. The very first response was a completely unnecessary insult from @Anaconda, and was by far the most incendiary response anyone could have posted. So seriously guys.. It's not even about not feeding the troll. It's more like... If you're not interested in the conversation, or if you don't have anything worthwhile to offer... Don't join in. All of the inane responses to NB are far more tiresome than anything NB has posted himself.

1840 days, 10 hours, 44 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

@Attercob, nevermind my initial post?
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-You cannot chose a single ship to perform more then one mission on any given turn, so no-

To clarify: except for missions that are "included" in friendly codes (ie lfm).
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This wasn't helpful at all?

My other posts were an attempt to stop the insult hurling.....

1840 days, 10 hours, 32 minutes ago

attercob

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

@Ventucci - yes, it was very helpful. I only mentioned Zavulon's post, because he was first to answer (without including a backhanded insult). And that's generally how questions like these are usually dealt with. Two or three people offer different variations of the answer, which is helpful for clarity, and then the thread ends.

I didn't really understand the purpose to your banter with Robijntje. Thanks for clarifying.

I just took exception to the immediate and unnecessary hostility that NB received, that only seemed to generate the very thing that people seem to be getting hostile over.

1840 days, 10 hours, 24 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

@Attercob, it comes from the movie Up! where the dogs get distracted by squirrels. Just trying to throw a bit of humor in to break up the hate. :P

a couple examples from the movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBWrMQVsuak

1840 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes ago

ronnle robot

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"Squirrel?!!" has become a house-hold expression here after that movie :-) It's just too bad when you have to explain it to people, then it sort'a falls flat on the ground a bit ;-)

1840 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes ago

bacchus

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Bunny's posts get to be silly sometimes, this one was innocent and Anaconda was wrong in the first approach. A simple no would have sufficed.

That said, Bunny is still a million times better forum member than some past participants that shall remain nameless :>

1840 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes ago

jernhand

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Can a w9 ship fly at w1 without losing speed?

No.

Think of each mission as a warp factor, if you fly around at w7, you can't fly at another speed.

So, if you set your cloaker to another mission, cloak was unabled.

To be a 90's player you know little (almost nothing) about the game Ninjabunny, but I do understand I also suffer some kind of selective amnesia. Maybe a millenium ago you never played as a cloaker, but it's hard to believe you don't even know about the basic mechanics of missions, friendly codes and primary enemies...

One mission at a time, one friendly code, one primary enemy, one warp setting, it's easy to learn, it's hard to make it work the right way.

Some of us are still waiting for that video of a Kittyhawk destroying a Virgo, what happened?

1840 days, 8 hours, 16 minutes ago

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

I was pondering already in the beginning if i should explain my self a bit, not for NB and not for those who are aware whats going on, but instead to those who acutally hang out at the feed less frequently and might still think NB is actually serious in his inquiries and posts.

i just dont buy it.

he is pretending too hard to be seen as an adult and because of that it is by far too apparent he will be seen as a kid. but if he is one, there is a lot that does not add up. i have been tracking the patterns in his posts too.

why did i come out "swinging" like Attercrob put it? Because i do think he is making fun on both, those who actually want to help new players and those new players who come up with serious yet simple questions day after day. i would hate that.

after following this art performace here as long as hes been around, i honestly do think he is closer to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT0-OL_71yU

than to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYpigQVzvOA

maybe he is a graduate student conducting some wicked clever soc/psyc research? in that case he got me. but i am too human for that.

if he is not, do i feel bad for what i said to him even when it was not ok by any standards? naw. i am too human for that too. there was actually time when i thought he was adorable... meaning i was blind, also.

i do however accept this slight possibility he has some condition. like Asperger's or what not. Then, i admit i would feel bad for him. people who are not responsible for them selves for example because of chemical reactions happening in their brain, for them i would and do feel bad for.

and even if he is not a troll, and he does not have a condition, but instead he is a legi kid, one cant come up with carbage like
- yea got laid long before high school
- yea i am conducting botany research
- yea i remember when family bought black-and-white tv in 80's
if you say shit like this when you are making very clear at the same time it is BS what your saying, your asking to be ridiculed, and should not get sensitive when others--well mostly me--are calling your bluff.

Excuse me.

1840 days, 8 hours, 9 minutes ago

gnerphk

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Wow -- I'm as well-known as Emork? Cool; that'll feed my ego nicely. ;o)

So here's a bunnyism: I'm going to propose a campaign vessel, a ship that can lay mines yet remain cloaked. :o)

1840 days, 7 hours, 56 minutes ago

glyn

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

If you (NinjaBunny) had asked these questions FIRST, and then months and months later had started your 'change Planets' threads, no one would be annoyed with you right now.

We knew you didn't have a full grasp of all the 'flawed genius' that is VGA Planets, which is why people got annoyed... especially after it was clear you had a lot to learn about still.

Honestly, there is so much to remember that everyone is permanetly learning tricks to the game.

I demand everyone be courteous if NinjaBunny has more questions, but the next 'change Planets' thread you make will just drive people insane.

1840 days, 7 hours, 50 minutes ago

jernhand

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

Black-and-white tv in the 80's? No way.

A ship that lay mines yet remain cloaked? Heresy!

Sorry mr Gnerphk, but yes, you're as well-known as our beloved emperor, long He may reign.

And IMHO Ninjabunny is trolling all of us, si non e vero e ben trobato.

But... still some questions get useful answers for our community.

1840 days, 7 hours, 50 minutes ago

issen adtur

RE: Can a cloaked ship lay mines without decloaking ?

No... but...

You CAN be cloaked in deep space, set mission to lay mines and jump to a friendly or safe orbit- thus staying hidden.

On a different note, I believe it's best to gain a considerable amount of experience before suggesting any kind of changes myself.

Such as you are able to do if you become Emperor- by designing your own ship.

Something to strive for if you truly want to make a change.

1840 days, 7 hours, 40 minutes ago

mechnomaniac

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well said ISSEN.

1840 days, 7 hours, 27 minutes ago

unknown

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