Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

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1739 days, 9 hours, 45 minutes ago

Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Hey fellow commanders,
A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor vs. midshipman” games to learn the game after a two decade break. In the first game our mentor (Ace Rimmer) is doing an excellent job of teaching and tutoring. So thumbs up for him.
In my second game, the privateer-mentor has started robbing/stealing ships from other players way before turn 30 (well not nice, but ok) and (the sad thing is) he has not wrote a single line of text in the whole game to anyone! And that is not ok!

Some of the players could really need some advice here and there, because they are still learning the basics and making a lot of mistakes. The others players, including me, are trying to help, but a rookie should not teach another rookie in this special kind of “mentor-game” type. So why does someone become a mentor, when he/she does not want to teach or talk at all?

I do not want to step on ones toe, but I am quite “displeased” at the moment. What should we do?
http://planets.nu/#/sector/117236

1739 days, 9 hours, 0 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I fully agree to your ideas. These games are for the midshipmen first.

Have you contacted the Mentor? Tell him what you are awaiting from him.

I can see mentor side, too. Even the Privs are infamous of their way of playing. And if the Mentor is one of the
learn it on the hard way style types , it is difficult for him to understand your critic. In the end he is forced to fight alone and barely knows your problems...(he has no alliance status!)

Perhaps a friendly wow, how did you manage this or could you give me a hint how I can avoid such a loss next time will surely help.

Should he denies all of your request you all have the choice:

Stand or leave.

But most players I met here have always been willing to communicate and to help.

1739 days, 8 hours, 37 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

"The Mentor's role is to teach the midshipmen how to build their economy for the first 30 turns by explaining their own actions and answering questions."

The mentor has a responsibility to do their best to educate other players. Not writing a single word of text, offering advise or even encouraging the midshipmen is a terrible example of what a mentor should do.

That is NOT what these games are for.

Hawk, I'd ask the mentor to explain himself first. Since that's written in the game description..."explaining their own actions " and if you are still dissatisfied, perhaps see if you can find another mentor to take over.

1739 days, 6 hours, 16 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

We tried to contact him a few times, but there was no response.

1739 days, 6 hours, 13 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

When my current slate of games end I'd love to be a mentor. I'm super chatty.

1739 days, 4 hours, 44 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

That's too bad, sorry to hear it. I've been thinking about giving this a try for some time, and with two games ending and another one all but over for me, seems like a good time. I may not be the best planets player, but I can certainly get some people going a bit.

If you're new and interested in learning how to play this thing, or get back in the swing of it, feel free to join:

http://planets.nu/#/sector/120734

I'll be playing the Colonies of Man, a fairly standard race in terms of economic start and early positioning, and you'll get lots of good info and questions answered.

1739 days, 4 hours, 28 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

If the mentor does not "MENTOR" and ignores your questions, contact Joshua and ask him to resolve this.

If that doesn't worhelp drop your game and join Dotman's game. It doesn't seem like he (or you) could do much worse.

I would love to be a mentor too, but I am trying to reduce my NU involvement rather than increasing it. But, I would certainly respond to any PMs I received. :)

1739 days, 4 hours, 27 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

edit: doesn't worhelp > doesn't help

1739 days, 4 hours, 15 minutes ago

emork the lizard king

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Good that you tell here. Awful behaviour from this "mentor" Aleksandr. Use the contact link at the bottom of the site to inform Joshua. I assume he'll be not pleased that someone chases away newbies from his site.

1739 days, 3 hours, 44 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Do Mentors lose tenacity for losing? I can understand losing it for dropping or resigning. My concern with these games was actually getting monkey stomped then taking a tenacity hit to boot. If the slot opens for some reason let me know as I will take it. Since I know there is no hit for taking over a race :)

1739 days, 3 hours, 35 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Thx for the answers folks. I have posted inside the game, asking our mentor friendly to start teaching and stop attacking for now. If he ignores this, I will contact Joshua.

@Dotman: Thank you very much for the offer. I will wait for a Lizard player to enter the game and maybe try out the Borg as a hissing partner to them. Or maybe give the crystals a try...

1739 days, 3 hours, 31 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

There are no tenacity hits for mentor games.
This Alexandr seems to not understand the purpose of the game or not understand english.
And I'm frankly surprised that someone who has not even finished a game can qualify as a mentor.

My advice would be for all the midshipmen to drop out and find another mentor game. This is everything a mentor game should not be.
Or send a Joshua message , you can use the contact link at the bottom of the page. Not sure if he can boot the guy , or want to for that matter but it's to be hoped.

1739 days, 3 hours, 18 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I'm really tempted to jump into this game in the open Lizard spot if the game would let me and be the anti-mentor mentor! Could be great fun!

1739 days, 3 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I am guessing the old format of Mentor and student team/pair game was not as successful. But what may be interesting is a mentor game with 1 mentor and say 5 midshipman vs. Another mentor and 5 midshipman. It would allow to cover more things such as counter moves to certain racial abilities, and deadly combinations of abilities and how to implement.
Now that I know there is no tenacity hit for losing this type of game, I may seriously consider it. Just... I am not sadistic enough to want to be attacked on 12 fronts.

1739 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes ago

berregon

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Unless you're sadistic enough to attack yourself, it's 11 fronts since you're one of the 12 players. ;)

1738 days, 23 hours, 41 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Criteria for being a Mentor should be harder to attain.

As Mentor I've been inspecting the other players, and have noticed mistakes and have been offering suggestions. Some are as basic as forgetting Supplies can be turned into MC.

I've had quite a few droppers, and 2/3 of those remaining really don't need much help. A couple races were dropped but then filled, harder to advise since you have to keep in mind the missed Turns when comparing their progress.

You can check out my Mentor Activity feed for my public addresses: http://play.planets.nu/#/sector/115534/activity

I've also sent private messages when addressing any short comings, or anything that is purely a specific race related strategy that IMHO they should do (like Privateers building MBR to Tow S.Transport as opposed to LDSF with Warp9 engines).

The criteria to be a Mentor should be a max 3 games currently ongoing, for the first 30 Turns limited to 4 games. At least two completed games with Rank 1-3.

1738 days, 23 hours, 30 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Join one of the slots in the Aranumia Sector.
http://planets.nu/#/sector/115054

Our mentor Nacho isn't that chatty but he answers you. There are a couple old time players in there just blowing the rust off who will answer you as well. I'm playing the Fascists there and can get you going pretty easy.

I'll skype you and walk you through a turn or two if you want.

In our game the mentor doesn't quite have the capacity to attack any newbs really, a handful of old timers are keeping him busy busy. :-)

1738 days, 21 hours, 31 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Joshua should have a check list for potential mentors.

1) Does he have experience with a number of races, such as many of those he will be advising?
2) Does he finish most of his games? In the top half of the players?
3) Is he "chatty" and does he understand exactly what is expected of a mentor? It should be explained in detail if necessary.

And once he completes a mentor game, does NU give HIM a bonus of some kind? That might get more capable mentors.

1738 days, 21 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

/\/\ule: Bribery to increase quantity of Mentors will also decrease the quality of Mentors. You want people that enjoy teaching for free.

Experience with multiple Races would have ruled me out as a Mentor (although I have VGA Planets experience with every Race a decade and change ago).

1738 days, 20 hours, 47 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

kicking rookie ass IS my method of teaching, in mine, i have yet to be asked a question, though i would answer if i was.....if they wanna see how its done, they can watch.

1738 days, 18 hours, 58 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

GLYN: Payment or reward is not bribery and there is absolutely no basis for the statement that it decreases quality of teaching. Loving something is not the same as being willing to do it for free. You get what you pay for in all things. The most capable people get paid to do what they do.

How does one become a mentor? I'd be the best mentor we've ever had. I'd have no wish to beat the other players. Winning as a mentor is watching the other players grow, feeling satisfied when their fleets challenge yours. I would summarize my actions for 30 turns, publicly, no problem. Linking strat guides across the web that apply to this turn's actions.

I do legal consults for a living, working mainly with the laymen. I can simplify ANYTHING for new people, or complicate it to my heart's content for the more advanced peeps.

Also my consults are all in writing. So, you know. Chatty is my name and chatty is my thang!

So seriously, can I be a mentor?

1738 days, 18 hours, 53 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

JP, If you are interested, contact Joshua. CONTACT link is at the bottom of the page.

However, if I was deciding, I'd ask you to wait until you finish some games at NU first. That way we will have first hand experience of your abilities and tenacity. :)

1738 days, 18 hours, 48 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I agree. One must prove one's self. Talk is cheap.

1738 days, 18 hours, 12 minutes ago

ace rimmer

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I think another qualification for Mentor should be that there name is not "NinjaBunny" :)

Ace

1738 days, 18 hours, 2 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Lol. That guy vexes you? He's probably 12, discovering a place in the world (the web) where he has some semblance of power. A control that he certainly does not have in daily life.

As long as he's not shit bagging people, dragging people down, he's alright. The wars that erupt in his threads are fun sometimes.

I think every forum needs an NB, just like very forum needs the chatty old guys there to help the noobs along. The paragons.

1738 days, 18 hours, 1 minutes ago

ace rimmer

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Nah he doesn't "Vex" me I just like to pick on him.

Ace

1738 days, 17 hours, 59 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Hahah! Great.

1738 days, 17 hours, 59 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Mule your list of rules for Joshua is good. But that is not listed in the description of the games. It does not actually say the Mentor should not attack the other players until turn 30. And no approval apart from rank is needed for the game. If the game was set up properly a list of approved Mentors would be set up with the actual skills required for the position. But has that happened? No.

Nice concept for the game. But requires good mentors to volunteer for the position and only be allowed to take up the game.

Do resources get given for this game? Is this Priv player just farming resources to further his own games? What Priv would not like the opportunity to see all the ships in the game and rob them all.

As said nice concept but needs more rules outlined into what the mentor should do and confirm if the mentor is suitable.

1738 days, 17 hours, 11 minutes ago

ltwarhound

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I'm about to drop out of the Mentor and Midshipmans game I'm in due to the Mentor. The closest that Mechnomaniac has come to 'Mentoring' is doing a 'like' on the very general strategy _I_ wrote out for the rest of the players. If this is the expected quality of the Mentoring, then its a complete waste of the newer players time. If anything, I'm learning BAD habits, since regular games won't be set up like this one.

So, thumbs up for the general concept of M vs M games, thumbs down for my actual experience.

1738 days, 17 hours, 9 minutes ago

ace rimmer

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

What the Hell Mech? LOL Your drinking too much whiskey? LOL

Ace

1738 days, 17 hours, 2 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

warhound has been the only one doing well against me....lol, and frankly gave the others sound advice....i will answer ANY questions....no one has asked, otherwise learn how i did, observe, lose, repeat until you figure out how NOT to lose.....it IS 14 on 1.....that borg player isn't whining...

1738 days, 16 hours, 59 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

ltwarhound (The Rebels)
27 days ago • Like
No, forget the other races.

Victory conditions: Kill the mentor by Turn 80. Nothing else matters.

So build bases in toward the Mentor. Get small attack ships out there now to harass him. Get minelayers out there to slow him down, get something out there to kill his minefield.

He can't be everywhere, we can. Exploit that.

Anyone want a Falcon to clone? Tell me where to send it.

1738 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

i had nothing to add.....unreasonable?

1738 days, 16 hours, 54 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Dude you are supposed to lose. This 14 on 1 thing is bullshit. Beating the other players isn't the goal. The goal is to lose your ass because the players you've helped have learned to be badasses. You play a solid game, sure, but the goal is to tell the newbs how to win.

You have to tuck your wiener away in a mentor game.

That said, we are allies in another game. So let's *#&@ some shit up!

1738 days, 16 hours, 49 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

i joined prepared to lose....but if i don't fight, its like here in america, many schools no longer keep scores at sporting events, the end result...? we are raising whiny pansies with unrealistic expectations of the life that awaits them....i am attempting to raise my "children" stronger than that...

1738 days, 16 hours, 48 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

also, my "wiener" could NOT possibly be more "tucked".....LMAO

1738 days, 16 hours, 24 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

LOL!

I'm just saying the mentor position is like a boxing coach. Riding the thin line between discouragement and *#&@ing you up.

Coach: "Nice jab...nice hook...try a combo now. Nice! Keep your hands up though or I'll hit you."

Coach: "Seriously, keep your hands up when backing out or you'll get hit."

Then BLAM to the face MOTHER *#&@ER!!!!!

Coach: "Now get up off the mat...and keep your hands up."

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What *#&@ing school does that? Lame.

My baby nieces are now going to a school I used to go to. Elementary school. We used t be called the Scorpions. But that was too aggressive. Now they are called The Stars. And they can't punch a bully in the face either without having to go to counselling.

Uncle Jo tells them to swing away. I guess the real achievers go to alternative school nowadays.

Lol. END RANT.

1738 days, 16 hours, 20 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

by your definition i am the perfect mentor. :)

1738 days, 16 hours, 8 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

:-)

1738 days, 16 hours, 8 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Also what are you drinking in that pic? Olive oil or Jack?

1738 days, 16 hours, 6 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Johnny Walker Blue Label.

1738 days, 15 hours, 13 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Gah! I had to quit that shit about 10 years ago. I miss it, my liver does not.

1738 days, 15 hours, 10 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

its worth the cirrhosis, i assure you.

1738 days, 12 hours, 51 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

So a replacement player just left the game and an one other player missed the last two turns (which would leave 6 active players against that particular mentor). If anybody is interested in playing the evil empire or the cyborg (or possibly the privateers in about 11 hours) as a midshipmen or maybe knows someone who needs some practice, join the fight!

http://planets.nu/#/sector/117236

1738 days, 11 hours, 33 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I'm with Mechno on this one. I joined as a Mentor fully expecting to lose, but I'm going to give them a fight. I talk general strategy and answer any questions. Fortunately I have a couple of very engaged player who ask a lot of questions. 11 vs 1 is a huge disadvantage for the mentor. I will be using every trick in the book to stay alive. I will not be making it easy for them.
You have to get your butt kicked many times before you learn.

1738 days, 10 hours, 15 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I do not know how there is a misunderstanding of what the M & M game is for. "This game is meant to be a fun way for many players to learn the game. The Mentor's role is to teach the midshipmen how to build their economy for the first 30 turns by explaining their own actions and answering questions."

How are you explaining to them how to develop their economy. if you are not actively monitoring and giving tips then you are FAILING. Blasting the hell out of them is not guidance or teaching. That would be like a professional MMA fighter going to the YMCA and kicking everyone's ass and then asking what they learned.

Just Answering questions doesn't do much. You as the mentor have in-game details and can see exactly what the student is doing right and wrong or can improve. ANYONE can ask questions in the forums. And thankfully we have a community here that is willing to give real and helpful advice. But they can only speculate what is going on that needs answered. The MENTOR has first hand knowledge. What teacher in a class just waits for students to ask questions? Your role as a mentor is to tell people how to expand and develop. Not wait for them to ask. Why else do you get to see everything?

Hey player "X" you see my lone ship heading towards your planet. This is obviously a weak spot and if you do not do anything I am going to run rampant through your area and cripple your economy. Did you notice how my Probe took out your planet? Maybe you should start getting the defenses built on your planets as a priority. Why are you sending out LDSF with only 100 clans? Yadda yadda..

Look I understand some people are not meant to teach and educate. Then realize this and do not volunteer. But do not mistake Mentor as getting to bully up on and beat the hell out of new players and rookies. The lesson more commonly learned is you are an -------.

Anyways just my 2 cents.

Genocidal

1738 days, 10 hours, 14 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Mech: Anyone can go through old games and learn from experienced players.

The point is to keep the 95% of players from leaving before they figure out how to do that. Mentoring is not kicking ass. Mentoring is teaching them how to kick your ass.

Try harder.

1738 days, 10 hours, 1 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Each mentor is going to have their own method for teaching. I've been a martial arts instructor for 30 years. Going easy on beginners is a sure way to give them a false sense of ability.

While there is plenty of advice a mentor can give, these games are for the mentees to make mistakes and learn from them while playing against someone who is trying to survive against 11 opponents.

1738 days, 9 hours, 58 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

you learn from showing others how to play, that's a fact. and watching some of the players from my old lizard training game still hang around here and doing well makes me prouder than beating new players up. definetely.

1738 days, 9 hours, 58 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I'm with genocidal and tom on this one.

The purpose of mentor games is SOLELY to help new players learn in a different format than just getting beat up or researching old games. If THAT was all that was required they can do that without a special mentor game.

At the very least, a mentor should post his/her philosophy in advance of the joining by new players. Then players like Spanxx can join Mechno's games - if that is what they want and expect. I suspect most would not.

1738 days, 9 hours, 55 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

@Spaxx, who said go easy on them? Do you just kick your students asses? Or do you show them, then watch them, then criticize them on how to improve? Do you not teach them the proper way first? There is some form of communication is there not? I can't fathom going to a martial arts instructor and the first lesson is he beating the hell out of me or see him do that to any student; then call that teaching.

1738 days, 9 hours, 44 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

@Genocidal, of course I don't just go kick them. I never said anything of the sort.

In my game I've been explaining what I'm doing. I've given my thoughts on native races, building ships and starbases, starclusters and expansion. I've also been writing a creative public commentary on my commander's adventures in building an empire. I don't think any of the players in my game would say I'm not engaged in making the game a positive learning experience.

That being said, I'm not going to roll over and let them beat me. I'm happy to disagree with those that think the Mentor-vs-Mentee game is simply about giving them everything on a silver platter. That is not the essence of Planets, never has been. I've learned the most from games where someone has handed me my hat.

1738 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Spaxx, I don't think you have been listening to the complaints well enough. The first Mentor described in this thread has given no help and when contacted gave no response. Mechno says, "Victory conditions: Kill the mentor by Turn 80. Nothing else matters." and that new players must ask before getting any help.

I have heard NOBODY say a mentor needs to roll over and be a punching bag.

The reason for mentor games was an observation that many new players quit soon after playing one (or less than one) game and just getting beat up on. Do you really think more of the same will change that dynamic?

NU needs to apologize to all the new players sucked into a "Mentor" game thinking they would get mentoring - and did not.

1738 days, 9 hours, 28 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Answering questions isn't teaching. Questions are just a by product of teaching. If you are kicking ass in a mentor game you are doing it wrong. The point is to increase retention of new players by teaching them to play.

I imagine very few people actually misunderstand that concept. Some mentors might not be coaching much but I'm thinking very few are actively in super try hard mode and blowing away newbs.

1738 days, 9 hours, 0 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

I actually can't imagine kicking ass in my game. There are simply too many opponents. I am in the middle and they are all encroaching towards me at varying speeds. But I'm going to give each one a fight.

For me, the point of this game format is to give new players a positive experience so that they learn something and want to play more. That is my goal.

1738 days, 8 hours, 18 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

@Spaxx, sounds like you are doing it right then. And I do not think you were following the complaints or comments of the thread. I never said or would imply to be a punching bag. But as a mentor; to come in and go full blown ass kick mode and offer no feedback and ONLY answer questions if asked or not at all is unacceptable.

1738 days, 1 hours, 44 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

i need to clarify, i am kicking ass by defending against attacks.....not inciting them....i keep 15 or so planets, and advance no further.....and when i joined, joshua said "lets see who will be the first mentor to survive 80 turns" i would like that to be me, that said, they seem to have the hang of it, i will answer questions as they arise....warhound already gave the best advice i could give....so now i wait for attacks and counter....

1735 days, 7 hours, 54 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

After losing some ships and a starbase, our Mentor resigned today. Still no reaction to any communication atempts.

I am writing Joshua now. Thanks to all of you again.

1735 days, 7 hours, 44 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Hawk: I hope you and the other players in this game know this "mentor's" actions are non-typical of most experienced players here.

I also found it interesting that the game descriptions says, " The Mentor's role is to teach the midshipmen how to build their economy for the first 30 turns by explaining their own actions and answering questions"

And the mentor chooses turn 30 to quit. Not that it appears he lived up to his duties during the first 30 turns. But, it is quite a coincidence.

1735 days, 2 hours, 47 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

After looking at NB's history, I also have to ask what he is doing as a mentor. Joshua needs to do a lot better at "vetting" of mentors or he will lose more players because of these mentor games than he will save.

Not to mention that by his last remark NB clearly doesn't know what a mentor's role should be.

1735 days, 2 hours, 35 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Mule there is no vetting.

The game is set up and people join.

If it was the source of this thread would not have happened!

Nice idea but I think with NB and the original one will make people not join any more.

1735 days, 2 hours, 29 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Even without mentoring, I think that teaming up on ninjabunny is not such a bad first experience. Throw in the occasional helpful and encouraging post to the mentoring game activity thread, as you can see Gnerphk doing here, and I think even with a poor mentor these games serve their purpose.

http://planets.nu/#/sector/119168/activity

There is room for improvement. But compared to the melees that were previously used for this purpose, I think we're moving in the right direction.

1735 days, 2 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

This whole discussion made me quite angry. Angry towards those people who don't care about what the role of a mentor is supposed to be and angry towards those who are too lazy to inform themselves about what they are supposed to do as a mentor. They keep new players from experiencing the joy planets can provide! The best way to learn planets still is to be shown by experienced players.

I started thinking about becoming mentor myself, providing I fulfil the requirements. (got to check on those!) At least I am used to give some explainations on what I'm doing because I work as a teacher.

At first I'll have to finish my current game of course to find enough time.

1735 days, 1 hours, 20 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

"I started thinking about becoming mentor myself, providing I fulfil the requirements. (got to check on those!) At least I am used to give some explainations on what I'm doing because I work as a teacher."

@Neruun The requirement is to reach at least the Lieutenant-Commander rank. Your rank of Captain is more than sufficient. It also sounds like you will be a great mentor for some new players.

1733 days, 8 hours, 28 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Thanks for the encouragement! :)

1733 days, 6 hours, 52 minutes ago

mule

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

Eric, You could surrender in the one you are beating me up in. That would free you up to be a Mentor sooner. :)

1732 days, 10 hours, 15 minutes ago

RE: Hey fellow commanders, A few weeks ago I joined two “mentor...

@Ninjabunny just resign that game, someone will pick it up and do the mentoring