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1722 days, 8 hours, 59 minutes ago

http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

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Rock sector:

One of the first non-melee P.Q. games- Update.

Turn 40- ship limit reached (first time).

"Banked" priority points range from 24 to a whopping 554.

Ship totals range from 8 (EE) to 86 (Lizards)

Currently all races still in play.

Interesting note- The Borg lead the military score with 17.14%, AND have the 554 pp....

Very interesting stuff...

1722 days, 8 hours, 19 minutes ago

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

OK how did the Cyborg get that high? Combat or mostly SB builds?

This will be the game that there will be no more none PP builds.

Please tell us more :-).

1722 days, 8 hours, 16 minutes ago

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

Very interesting stuff ...in normal games I would bet on the Borgs ... a lot of high equipped cubes can be build with the saved PP :-)

But Mechnomaniac is a well trained opponent ;-)

Good luck to all commanders

Frostie

1722 days, 7 hours, 45 minutes ago

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

The only early game warfare I'm aware of is Rebel/Bird and Lizard/EE, it's been fairly peaceful otherwise.

I myself had a slower start than I'd hoped, and still managed 200+ pp, all from SB's.

With two races near the fight or fail threshold, there's still some tiny chance of post limit builds, but I don't plan on counting on it like I did/do in the Mob World Sector melee- where random builds were almost common for about fifteen turns post limit, and the ship limit still hasn't broken 500 for any real period of time.

I doubt that will happen here, but that's all theory at this point.

1722 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes ago

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

Get Borg Bases!

1722 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes ago

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

I didn't quite expect these weird dynamics. I also usually don't have many bases before the ship limit that cannot build something useful worth more than 2 PP.
I'll definitely keep watching how this develops. Please keep us posted. :)

1721 days, 17 hours, 15 minutes ago

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The dynamics are, indeed, different. Does one build a warp 6 Eros now or a warp 9 Eros later with the 2 pbp's? As a Fascist, the decision is warp 1-6 Nef with lasers now or 2/3 of a warp 9 Nef, possibly with 7 x Heavy Phasers, later. I opt for the latter, except in emergencies. But, it is personal preference. There is also the balance of building something useful now or wait until you find out who your enemy is later. Of course, this is for small ships. My early Vickies had Blasters. Now they all have Heavy Phasers. Alchemy ships best be built before the ship limit.

1721 days, 14 hours, 21 minutes ago

mule

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

I am wondering if the Campaign mode is pertinent to ship builds vs what we are seeing in the Classic PQ game at http://play.planets.nu/#/sector/113391 where the Borg is also running away with Priority Points (106) compared to the next closest Fascist (58).

1721 days, 10 hours, 51 minutes ago

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

The lowest two players only has 18 ships so that would not take much to get the ship limit over 518.

18 ships built will stop anyone without PP building. 36PP slot fillers?

The problem is that there is a lot of PP floating about and a lot of people can build either slot fillers (should be reclassified normal build stoppers) or actual fighting ships that may make a mess of badly placed slot fillers :-).

Could this mean that the game tactic of building low PP ships to stop people building could change?

So a change from slot fillers to actual useful ships?

Time will tell.

Keep us updated :-)

1721 days, 10 hours, 19 minutes ago

mule

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

RE: So a change from slot fillers to actual useful ships?

Sure, we play a 3D game on a 2D game screen and there are any number of other variants from an ITWR (If This Were Real) universe. Still, where possible, I think realism is better than non-realism.

There is not only no ITWR corollary to ship slots, (ie: you can't build a ship across the galaxy because I have built too many here) - there are better solutions to keep from being overrun by ships. We would be better with fewer resources and maybe less efficient or nonexistent Merlins.

Thinking about it... we could have a 999 test game with lower resources and an agreement not to build Merlins... hmmmm... I wonder if that would avoid the need to worry about ship slots? To bad it's so hard to advertize and fill custom games. But, if someone else wanted to try, I'd play in it.

Failing that, I hope PQ at least takes the game one step closer to a more logical game. I have high hopes. :)

1721 days, 9 hours, 12 minutes ago

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Instead of an agreement to not build Merlins, you could make it a Campaign game and require that all players disable Merlins in order to join :>

1721 days, 9 hours, 9 minutes ago

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From what i have seen in the giant melee i m playing in the highest ship count have been 510, lots of fighting, fof and kill race active so a lot of slot have been lost there. Never seen more than 100 pbp and for my part only build useful or utilitary ship. I lke this format and will try it in a team or regular game soon.

1721 days, 8 hours, 26 minutes ago

mule

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

Don't do Campaigns or Melees. Kind of like sticking to Classics. That's Planets for me. But, sorry for sidetracking the PQ report thread.

So far, I think PQ works better than PBP. But, we really haven't gotten into ship limit territory yet.

1721 days, 2 hours, 54 minutes ago

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@Mule Do you like it better than PLS? I know you are playing in all 3 flavors. I really do like the PLS the more I play. Amazingly different game. Dare I say "better" even...

1721 days, 1 hours, 11 minutes ago

mule

RE: http://planets.nu/#/sector/114006 Rock sector: One of the...

@lord+pollax: Thus far I prefer PLS games. What I worry about is finding the Classic PLS games that I prefer as time goes by. Especially now that both MJS and I have both become frustrated with trying to collect sufficient players using just this rather impermanent Feed. Martinr has indicated an interest in hosting one, but his would be a non-classic team game.

I am thinking Classic PQ games might eventually be offered by NU. Using the site's New Games pages, that will give them a large advantage when it comes to getting players. So, I wanted to try a PQ game out as well. So far - so good. Not as fun as PLS, but IMO certainly better than PBP games.

1720 days, 7 hours, 34 minutes ago

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You can count me in should you ever find a need for a PLS player. Any race, any time.

1699 days, 9 hours, 42 minutes ago

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Rock Sector- ten turns later...

Turn fifty update:

All races still in play (although we have a few close to FoF and had a couple turns missed recently)

P.P now range from 6 (Feds) to 365 (Borg), with somewhere around 100 being about average.

Ship limit has not dropped below 500 again since the limit was reached on turn 40 (to my knowledge). Current ships in play: 518