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1765 days, 23 hours, 54 minutes ago

mule

I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about a poll? How many likes can a single post asking for a forum get? Are likes tallied? Shall we try? I'll start by liking my own post.

1765 days, 16 hours, 49 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

If possible, Id like to lump in:

An in and out of game message system that doesn't "lose" messages by burying them in feeds.

1765 days, 13 hours, 38 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

17 likes in the first 10 hours. Seems like there is interest. Can someone remind me why we were told the forum went away?

1765 days, 0 hours, 58 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Probably limited to the range of an Int... so this might take awhile.

1765 days, 0 hours, 44 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Yea.... but 26 likes in 23 hours ain't bad.

1763 days, 6 hours, 10 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Did I forget the original post? We want a real Forum!

bump - 29n LIKES - :)

1763 days, 5 hours, 36 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

So lets get this straight.

You made a post, but you forgot to add either a heading or a message..................

And the post was that you wanted lots of support for your idea (which you forget to add)..............

And it still got 32 likes !

We must be a strange bunch of people.

1763 days, 5 hours, 8 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Funny - ain't it? :)

But, I think most of the early Likes were when the original and explained post was still up. And then the first 2 replies in this thread "kind of" explained it for those that might have seen the original...

For those not keeping up, this was a request to LIKE this post asking for the return of a forum. Likes are still accepted!

But, we can still be a strange bunch. :)

1763 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

I also just noticed there were 3 LIKES on replies that were not totaled on the thread starter. By my figures that would make our actual count = 34 for a return of the forum.

1763 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Let me explain the reason that we chose to move away from a traditional forum.

Third party forums have some great functionality and the "old" forums were actually custom built forum functionality for our own CMS platform which runs the old Planets.Nu site. We liked aspects of that functionality as well. However there are two reasons we moved away:

1) The primary reason was that we wanted Planets Nu to have it's own messaging/community platform which was part of the app itself. The big reason for this was that we could display and interact with this activity feed from any client. That means that if we build a mobile app or a web app or a desktop app all of them can access the activity feed from the API. So any future platform for Planets or even any third party apps can also display and interact with the activity feed.

We promoted the Forums from a third party/separate add-on to a first-level aspect of the application of Planets Nu.

2) The way we have built the activity feed has led to a much greater involvement (both passive and active) in the ongoing discussion by the community.

Adding third party forum functionality would be a big step back. Separating this amazing discussion from the actual application of Planets Nu.

We are very open to suggestions on how to improve the feed to make it better. It could even be more "forum like" if you want to have subject lines on posts. But we're not going to take the discussion out of the App. That would be a great loss for the future when we finally get Planets Nu live on other platforms (mobile, consoles, oculus rift? etc).

So bring your specific suggestions to the feedback system and we'll bring them to life!

1763 days, 2 hours, 16 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

I took Joshua at his word and sent him a brief note using the contact link. I hope anyone that really wants a forum rather than this feed does likewise. He has listened to us on other things, maybe he will again.

1762 days, 20 hours, 23 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Now, let's not spam the poor man. That won't help.

On the other hand, I've got no objection to leaving this at the top of the Feed for the next six months.

1762 days, 20 hours, 2 minutes ago

zyki

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

I like the feed, but having a cms block under "breaking news" to only display top 5 most commented topics or something like that will be really nice:)

1762 days, 19 hours, 3 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

So, in theory, private InSiteWeb (not InGame) messages could be improved.
Private InSiteWeb messages become standard mail, and many of them are lost or read after a long time (I speak from personal experience).
A little "InBox" feature between GAME LIST and ACTIVITY should be very nice. Just to have only the messages recived and another way to send messages and especially a Reply function.
I know, to have that into every account we should have a certain amount of space to keep messages. But if incoming messages, at the same time, are forwarded as email, the amount of messages into InBox could have a max, we could say.... 100 messages and when that limit is reached, last messages in time order are automatically deleted.

1762 days, 16 hours, 27 minutes ago

anas

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

1762 days, 12 hours, 33 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

GP says...
"Now, let's not spam the poor man. That won't help."

That leaves me wondering if we should do as Joshua asked (using CONTACT) or continuing to complain here in public, which is my preference because I think we should know if our feelings in this are shared.

Which one is the spam? Or, do I (we?) simply "take it or leave it?" Is that the No-Spam option?

1762 days, 12 hours, 33 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

GP says...
"Now, let's not spam the poor man. That won't help."

That leaves me wondering if we should do as Joshua asked (using CONTACT) or continuing to complain here in public, which is my preference because I think we should know if our feelings in this are shared.

Which one is the spam? Or, do I (we?) simply "take it or leave it?" Is that the No-Spam option?

1762 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Actually Mule I think you misunderstood me. I suggested you use the feedback system: http://planets.uservoice.com

1762 days, 12 hours, 15 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Joshua, Yes, I misunderstood. Thanks for making it clear.
BTW - I wish I knew why I am now getting so many double posts. Not doing it on purpose.

1762 days, 12 hours, 3 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Uservoice sometimes get noticed - but because we have no "persistent communications" such as a forum the notices of their existence quickly fade away.

How many were aware of these Examples?
Make Feed more Forum like:

http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-

general/suggestions/5827062-expand-activity-feed-to-

have-some-more-forum-like > kedalion shared this idea

Add Feed Search:

http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-

general/suggestions/2362776-add-a-search-feature-to-

the-forums > PlanetLord shared this idea. Says

COMPLETED - I don't see it!

Fix Forum:

http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-

general/suggestions/3332736-fix-the-forum > Anonymous

shared this idea

Give me back the old forums and in game messages:
http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-general/suggestions/3945154-give-me-back-the-old-forums-and-in-game-messages > chaos1357 shared this idea

1762 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Yeah, its a bit like the protest zones Russia set up for the olympics, right? Miles away from the stadiums. I'd guess 90% of players never go there, I know I never have as far as I can recall.

My biggest issue with the activity feed is important stuff (to me, at least) gets shoved off so quickly from my main page. I wish I could see a list or something of, say, the past 20 topics, instead of just the last 5, if not all the text there, or maybe flag threads that I'm interested in to stay visible always on the feed. I don't mind scrolling.

But trying to search for stuff is tough; I've been unable sometimes to find my own threads!

Food for thought.

1762 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Maybe this will work better:
Make Feed more Forum like:
http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-general/suggestions/5827062-expand-activity-feed-to-have-some-more-forum-like >
kedalion shared this idea

Add Feed Search:
http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-general/suggestions/2362776-add-a-search-feature-to-the-forums
> PlanetLord shared this idea. Says
COMPLETED - I don't see it!

Fix Forum:
http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-general/suggestions/3332736-fix-the-forum
> Anonymous
shared this idea

Give me back the old forums and in game messages:
http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-general/suggestions/3945154-give-me-back-the-old-forums-and-in-game-messages >
chaos1357 shared this idea

1762 days, 11 hours, 48 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

The search feature is there, but its a bit limited. If you click activity, one of the four tabs there is search. However, as far as I can tell it just searches the text of threads for that exact phrase.

So when I want to find some threads I've posted in, or my plugin thread, I would try and search for 'dotman', but none of those threads come up; its just all the threads where people complained about me by name for one reason or another :-).

So finding threads I started, and threads I've posted in, that would be really great for me. If I'm missing something here, misusing it somehow, let me know!

1762 days, 11 hours, 11 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

What I do not like is the different look that the messaging system (I do not consider what we have a forum) has deepening on if you use the old or new UI. I also have a number of other issues with the look that seem to stem from using some other browser than Chrome, which is a browser that I and my clients now avoid. (not something I will discuss here).
I do not like the inability to edit, I do not like the error prone UI as mistakes in posting can be embarrassing and also can damage the relationships in a game.
I understand the desire to be able to play on different devices but if the ability to play on the platform that the majority of us use (P.C. s either desktops or notebooks)is made more difficult to accommodate the fewer tablet or phone users (Yes I can play on my Windows phone but it is not fun) I believe that is a loosing scenario. NEVER sacrifice existing customers in an attempt to possibly gain new ones. You usually loose more than you gain.
Anyway, for whatever reason, I liked what we used to have far better than what we have now. Just my opinion and I am sure not something everyone will agree with.

1762 days, 10 hours, 53 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

Referring back to Kedalion's Uservoice: Expand Activity Feed to have some more forum like functionality... He give some good reasons. I could add several more. Like posting player created game opening that will last longer than minutes to hours and being easier to avoid or find certain subjects.

And here is the problem with depending on Uservoice. All too often it is a place where good ideas go to die. Who really goes there looking for things to vote on if it isn't first discussed or posted here and due to the ethereal nature of this feed, repeated from time to time? Ked's suggestion has been there 7 months and had 41 votes until I added another one today. How many votes does it take to say the Feed (as it is) is not working for all of us?

If you agree add votes: http://planets.uservoice.com/forums/136520-general/suggestions/5827062-expand-activity-feed-to-have-some-more-forum-like

1762 days, 9 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

I do wish there were a better interface than UserVoice. I'd set up a petition for that except I seem unable to do so -- something about votes.

So: Joshua's post says that we should concentrate on ways to make the Feed more Forum-like. He gives us the technical reason, and I find it compelling; after all, reducing reliance on third-party software keeps costs low.

"Fix Forums" and "Give Me Back Old Forums" aren't terribly useful as suggestions. "Search" seems pointless until we get some basic organization.

So let's concentrate on improving the alternate-access interface under the "Activity" link. First, let's change the damn name to something that looks more like "Forum" on first click, and then let's toss in a Search function for all threads in certain categories.

Additionally, I like the idea of "Hot Topics" having a set of three or four hotlinks at the top of the Feed. Cool improvement, though not specifically Forum-related.

Can we expand from here?

1762 days, 9 hours, 2 minutes ago

mule

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

I want something persistent where we can post notices about private games and related rules.

There is http://planets.nu/forums and and I wouldn't mind having to take the extra step to get there if it allowed me to post/reply (which I now seem to struggle with) and had a link from here at the top or bottom of this page.

Joshua thinks the Feed stimulates activity and I think it stimulates arguments that jump up and bite us. But, as a wag once said, I can tape a flip over cardboard panel over that third of the screen and nobody would be the wiser. Except I would then just be less informed about the things I do want to know about.

1762 days, 9 hours, 1 minutes ago

RE: I just realized this should get it's own heading. How about...

I do not use a post where I have to log in again and that is not part of the original site, I just never bother to go there.
In fact with this team game under discussion I have posted more in the last week than I have in the last year or so.