I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

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375 days, 6 hours, 47 minutes ago

I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:

Squadron, Elusive, Planet Immunity - Topaz Gunboats are actually 5 long range fighters. ... When destroyed only one fighter is destroyed (1 beam weapon is removed) and they will circle back for another pass until all four are destroyed. The others escape.

Why "all four are destroyed" if it's "5 fighters"? What "others" escape - 1 other? Why plural then? If 1 always escapes, it means it's not possible to destroy this squadron -- it's immortal?

375 days, 6 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

The ship will actually fight five times, each time with one beam less. First fight, it will use 5 beams. After being destroyed, it will return with four beams, and fight again. Then with three beams, and so on.

375 days, 6 hours, 33 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

This is an error in the description oft the IMPERIAL Topaz Class Gunboats.

Topaz Class Gunboats are actually 4 ships and it takes 4 rounds to destroy them all. The Imperial Version has 5 ships but the description is that for the 4 ship Version.

375 days, 6 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

I'd like to rename this class of ship to "Little Bastards"

375 days, 5 hours, 59 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

The first time against the gunboats my Darkwing (with 80 mk7s and x-rays) died against one. They are truly annoying.

375 days, 5 hours, 14 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

Awesome. I am using them for the first time in a PLS game, but haven't seen them in action yet. Now I can't wait!

375 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

PLS and "gunboat" go hand in hand. You will find them a very powerful tool when you can just crank out replacements quick and easy.

@Loner I'm sorry that I laughed when I read your comment... my first experience was watching a Missouri getting pwn'd. @Tom_N This is why I suggested the gunboats. Nasty buggers.

375 days, 0 hours, 54 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

@vgapsycho, Yes it was the Imperial class. Same with the high-grade Empire's RU fighters. I think the buggy description makes sense. And who or what escapes?

@big+beefer, @Glyn, perhaps the description could be fixed?

@Loner the first time I fought them my biocide ate them and didn't even burp. I don't know what you're talking about :)

375 days, 0 hours, 9 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

@Stardestroyer: Either it has just been fixed, or I'm not looking at the right spot.

Except for Documentation, it requires Big Beefer or Joshua to modify it. All I can do is whine about it!
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There's a few descriptions that are wrong-ish that I've been too lazy to research fully. After which I can then provide the results and see if they change the description or change the game to match the description.
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Messaging @Editors might be worth it sometimes, it is the Documentation volunteers 'inbox' essentially. They are matching Documentation to whatever the descriptions are controlled by BB/Joshua however.

For example the Custom Sector creation system states the maximum value for certain variables... but they aren't actually correct. So I put them on the WIKI rather than risk the information living and dying with me. That example is stored here if I piqued your interest; http://www.vgaplanets.org/index.php/Custom_Sectors
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Mentioning Big Beefer and me in the same breath as if we are equivalent will ruffle a few peoples feathers. I got a laugh out of it though!

374 days, 23 hours, 36 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

Don't get overconfident, kid. They are easily countered by using FC ntp (unless they are used as lead ships) for others.

Beam ships are their weakness.

374 days, 23 hours, 21 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

Worth noting is you can Super Refit Gunboats to replace destroyed Beam weapons!

I wish the Gunboats didn't fight over and over; So for example the Gunboat initiates Combat with a Carrier.... fights once and then is done... then the Carrier possibly initiates Combat with the Gunboats (less one beam/"fighter").

That makes more sense to me, and gives the Feds a needed boost if they end up with Gunboats... hint hint.. Campaign-ship idea... doubt an Emperor would waste his ship design on that. Maybe Fed Gunboats could fire torpedoes of the same Tech as their engines instead of beams? I think that would really boost their anti-Carrier abilities.

Part of the reason I don't want them fighting over and over... is I damn near have a heart attack every time I see "5 VCRS"... especially when I lose two or three and see double digit VCRs! And if they are annoyed they need 5 ships to kill a Gunboat in one Turn... they can remember they are easy to Tow!
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@Tom+Graves: I didn't even think of them using 'ntp'... course I've really only used Gunboats against Horwasp... but now their value to me went down a tick.

374 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes ago

RE: I really don't get the description of Topaz Class Gunboats:...

@stardestroyer
"And who or what escapes?"
This sentence also dies not make much sense. It should read like "only one fighter is destroyed in a single attack round. The remaining fighters attack again until all of them are destroyed."