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623 days, 15 hours, 9 minutes ago

I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a player leaves before FoF hits? Killrace is false in all Standard games so the race is not deleted. Unless a replacement player joins, than everything will vanish the next turn.

I just can't get the logic behind this.

623 days, 7 hours, 53 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

It only takes one Turn and a handful of ships to save yourself from FoF. The 30 Turn hold on FoF being implemented is probably because that is when the Ship Limit is hit in a full 11 player Sector and depending on the Sector, Wandering Tribes for examples, you can't start FoF immediately.

623 days, 5 hours, 13 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

But why doesn't FoF applies when the player drops?

623 days, 4 hours, 35 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

@Rudel: It will I believe, on Turn 30... but not before then.

623 days, 3 hours, 46 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

@Rudel,

http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/fight-or-fail

Fixed FoF will not "kick" before turn 30. Incremental FoF is active from the beginning of the game, but warning messages aren't sent out until turn 10. After they drop below the FoF value, they have 1 turn to make peace with their god(s) before destruction.

The one game you're in (Roll Sector - http://planets.nu/#/sector/236340) has an incremental FoF that's currently 5, and will increase in three turns. There's also a Fed player slot with only 5 planets. That slot should trigger FoF (with ships and starbases destroyed) either when the next planet is taken from them, or three turns from now when the FoF increases.

623 days, 3 hours, 11 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

Oh I thought it didn't trigger when the race is "open". That makes much more sense then.

623 days, 2 hours, 51 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

@Rudel,

That's the information I have from Big Beefer. I've never been in a position to verify that information on an empty slot.

622 days, 17 hours, 50 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

I can tell you in 3 turns ;)

622 days, 17 hours, 34 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

@Rudel,

> I can tell you in 3 turns

That would be helpful. Thanks.

620 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

Funny thing, the player got killed by the system in turn 29..

http://planets.nu/#/sector/236340/data (Fed)

620 days, 2 hours, 4 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

@Rudel,

> the player got killed by the system in turn 29

He dropped below the FoF limit on turn 28. He was killed very early in turn 29.

> there was no message regarding this to everyone

There should have been a message in the Fleet section, based on this template:

We are getting reports from inside {0}. It appears that their leader has lost control. Ship captains and starbase commanders are rebelling and hyping out of the system. Their entire defense network is collapsing! They are finished!

620 days, 1 hours, 4 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

Yeah you are right, I mixed that up with fixed FoF (whatever that is, is it used anywhere?). I thought FoF always starts at turn 30 the earliest.

619 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes ago

RE: I there a reason that Fight or Fail is inactive when a...

@Rudel,

> I mixed that up with fixed FoF

As you can see from the responses above, that's easy to do.

Based on what's been learned here, the FoF page has been updated.

http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/fight-or-fail