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280 days, 16 hours, 1 minutes ago

remus 187

I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone and I am the privateers. My first thought was to just leave one clan on the planet and have him drop some ground troops thereby taking the station intact. But then I thought that the diplomacy aspect may stop us from fighting since we officially have a "peace agreement".

Does having a peace agreement stop him from dropping clans on my planet?

280 days, 15 hours, 46 minutes ago

greendragon

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

No, you can initiate ground combat even if you have a full alliance. It is a useful way to give your ally a SB to build special ships where you need them... as long as you trust him enough?

280 days, 15 hours, 12 minutes ago

remus 187

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

Thanks! I can't go half way in with trust. It's either all or nothing. If he betrays me then I will spam him on facebook!

280 days, 13 hours, 16 minutes ago

escogido

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

IIRC if the friendly codes of the ship and the planet match, then the dropped colonists will join your starbase. so I guess that's the only thing to watch out for.

280 days, 12 hours, 35 minutes ago

paudolf

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

Are you sure about this fcode working @escogido? I didn't know it... I thought fcode don't change anything in ground combat...

280 days, 12 hours, 0 minutes ago

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

Yea, I dont think thats accurate Escogido.

If the fc's match and the base is set unload freighters it forces ground combat with offloaded clans- (in my experience, and if memory serves)

280 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes ago

decius

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

@Issen+Adtur, @Escogido

I'm pretty sure Unload Freighters does "convert" colonists instead of forcing ground combat. And foreign ships won't be affected by the mission unless they have a matching friendly code. It may require a certain diplomatic status as well--I'm not sure. Dropping clans directly on the ally's planet, however, will force ground combat (what @Remus+187 wants in this case) regardless of diplomatic status.

This post from a few years ago supports that opinion as well:

6. Fast mineral donation with an extra side-dish of clans.
Race A has a base set to any code and mission unload freighters
Race B shares intel (or ally) with race A. Race B sends a ship to the above mentioned base with a mathching code.
CARGO will be unloaded quickly, you saved 1 turn of time. Due to host order, base unload is after movement in the same host run.
Cargo is Dura, Moly, Trit, Supplies AND COLONISTS.

http://planets.nu/discussion/clean-tips-and-dirty-tricks-ive-felt-that-since-the

280 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes ago

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

Cargo transfer of Clans to an enemy planet doesn't care what planet FC is... it's an invasion... even if Full Alliance.
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"Unload Freighters: The starbase will automatically unload all cargo and money from any starship at the starbase's location. The starships must be yours or have the same Friendly Code as the planet/starbase. Note that certain specialized codes may confuse the starbase crew; if the Friendly Code of the starbase is DMP or PBx, the crew of the starbase will be too busy to automatically unload the starships, and it will have to be done manually. Additionally, if the Friendly Code of the starbase is BUM, the crew of the starbase will have received potentially conflicting orders and will await clarification." ; http://help.planets.nu/starbase-commands

Documentation doesn't properly address Clans in the above, it cannot assume we don't count Clans as cargo. This goes for torpedoes and fighters.

It should JUST state EXACTLY what is unloaded. Plus then the bloody search engine will actually work everytime.

280 days, 4 hours, 37 minutes ago

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

http://help.planets.nu/cargo

"The cargo that a ship may carry includes fuel , supplies , colonists , tritanium, duranium, molybdenum and MegaCredits. If a ship has one or more torpedo launchers the ship may carry torpedoes. If the ship has one or more fighter bays the ship may carry fighters."
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So it is all cargo, excellent.

280 days, 4 hours, 35 minutes ago

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

@Issen+Adtur,

> If the fc's match and the base is set unload freighters it forces ground combat with offloaded clans- (in my experience, and if memory serves)

The FC's are irrelevant. Cargo Drop (ship to foreign planet) is #12 in the Simplified Host Order. The Starbase Primary Orders are at step 39.

280 days, 3 hours, 24 minutes ago

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

So do they or do they not fight each other?

...Maybe I HAVE played it using unload freighters to drop clans... With @Coen now that u mention it...

Not something I do much of..

(Obviously I play too much- and am easily confused!)

280 days, 3 hours, 23 minutes ago

escogido

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

I have been giving clans to other races via unload freighters + matching friendly codes for quite a while. I may have been wrong on the "matching fcs causes colonists to join the other planet instead of ground combat" part, but this one is certain.

280 days, 2 hours, 19 minutes ago

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

@Escogido: Whoops, just a misunderstanding.

The word 'unload' doesn't appear till Issen Adtur's post.

Your mention of 'starbase' makes it clear you intended to indicate the unload freighters starbase mission however.

Some of us, or at least I did, assumed you meant manual cargo transfer as that is what the OP stated, my bad!

280 days, 0 hours, 35 minutes ago

nessus

RE: I want to give a starbase to another player. He can clone...

Gave up reading this.... however. Your answer is

Leave 1 clan on planet and have "ally" beam down clans, he will then take control of planet and starbase. Do not use same FCs or starbase commands, just pull into orbit and transfer clans to the surface. Bang your dead and he has a new planet/starbase. :)