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1064 days, 16 hours, 51 minutes ago
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ace rimmer
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I would suggest we start a Hillary Camp vs Trump Camp game in honor of the upcoming election, but I don't think we could get enough players to join! LOL I am assuming that most people who play here think they would rather have someone else lead the United States than those 2 Bozo's. I'm writing in Darth Balls for President, only because he his the current emperor. LOL

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1064 days, 14 hours, 8 minutes ago
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robijntje
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Trump Camp: all must play Horwasp?
1064 days, 13 hours, 52 minutes ago
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glyn
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Put this Canadian down for Trump... I've even already practiced building a wall; http://imgur.com/LPv0jQA
1064 days, 13 hours, 47 minutes ago
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ace rimmer
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What game was that in Glyn? I'd would like to study your method on that.

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1064 days, 13 hours, 47 minutes ago
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ndek
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Well, Trump looks more like a lizard to me. And maybe the borg queen as a placeholder for Hillary?
1064 days, 13 hours, 45 minutes ago
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ted
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I will join for the Trump team! :)
1064 days, 13 hours, 11 minutes ago
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glyn
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@Ace+Rimmer: It was in my MvsM with my lone Midshipman; http://play.planets.nu/#/sector/138501

630 days ago; "Glyn: Made using Mark7's, load up 7 torps and resources to make another 7, using 'mdq' it will lay a single 9ly radius Web, move 10ly and repeat (changing FC later to always drop 1 then 'mkt' after first 7 laid)."

In that Sector I started from the inside and worked my way out... but what you'd do in an real game is start at the exterior and work back towards your planets... the idea being you jump in front of an invading fleet, and work your way back home. Onyx's can perform this role for the Crystals in an emergency.

Because of the soft minefield limit, if you do them as small as I did, you really want to make sure an enemy ship is within 200 ly's or they can all vanish if there are more than 500 minefields already.
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Around planets I do my "Lotus Trap"; http://imgur.com/xjJElIV

From within the Warp Well I can expand/minescoop all 9 Webs at once with enough ships; http://planets.nu/discussion/to-celebrate-my-ascension-to-rank-of-captain-id-like-to
1064 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes ago
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strangelove007
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I start the Team Gary Johnson.
We will conquer the Aleppo Sector!
1064 days, 11 hours, 13 minutes ago
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emork the lizard king
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It's no game. It's a serious thing which will affect the lifes of millions of people. Probably not the ones who vote in the most serious way because they're still too wealthy (seen globally) but mid-term they will feel the consequences, too.
1064 days, 10 hours, 6 minutes ago
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hays
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Why in western europe we are bothered bout pre-election phase of a US President, i never understood.
Are US Citizens bothered by the pre-"election" phase of the Chinese President or german chancelor?
No! Why? Not for any interest of personal living circumstances.
AND
Careless who will become US President, he wont affect my life in any manner, same as President of Russia, China or Southafrica.

But i feel sorry for all US citizens and those who expressed their knowledge in the occupy movement, for what Goverment they keep.
1064 days, 9 hours, 47 minutes ago
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erku
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Hays, I fear that you are very wrong about whether the US president affects us here in Germany. George W. did affect us as does Obama.

The US president has a lot of influence in the world and he can make a difference in stabilizing or destabilizing the world.
1064 days, 9 hours, 36 minutes ago
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hays
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Perhaps you dont know bout decisions and those who influence decisions. And those who brief those who are in charge.
Of course if the Commander in Chief presses the red button its getting hot here.
Its not the man, its the seat that reigns.

Everytime a president is accused to break a promise he made pre-election, you know, the man want it, but those who have the influence dont want to let it happen.
Nothing really changed exept technologie, as the good old Morgan, Rockefeller and Carnagie unite to get their man into the oval office.

Yes its history.
1064 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes ago
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martinr
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Well I am slightly interested.

I heard that some Scottish council or government department denied Trump permission to expand / build a new golf course.

My fear is he will Nuke Scotland / ban the sale of Scottish whisky in America / some other drastic trade policy to get revenge because he can as he is the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world. That will effect the rest of the UK in some way.

Trump is a business man and not a politician.

He says what he thinks because he thinks he is right. And he does not care what people think.

He also thinks that if everyone votes against him, even if they honestly think he is the worst option they are wrong and the election has been rigged against him.

We had a similar thing happen with our "second" strongest political party here in the UK. The grass roots of the party and the Unions voted for a Leader who believes in the common people. A plain speaking person who says what they think and is not afraid of upsetting people if they think differently. Totally the opposite of what normal politicians do.

They are both opposite ends of the political spectrum and backgrounds. But they both are strong minded and stubborn and no one considers them suitable for the stability of the country they represent.

We all want our politicians to be more truthful and be a bit different from recent politicians.

But Trump is too different in too short a time to be the President of the USA.

Hillary I hear is bad for other reasons but compared to Trump she seems to be the safer option to prevent the next world war if Trump gets in and keeps with some of the things he has mentioned in his election promises.

But these are from a person who is not totally immersed in the elections in the USA.

Good luck to you Americans on voting the right way as your choice also effect the rest of the world :-).
1064 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes ago
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blowfish
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I personally have found planets to be an excellent and much needed distraction from the political season.
1064 days, 9 hours, 3 minutes ago
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procrustes
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Since Trump lost his appeal on the wind farm in the sea off his golf course we've had a Scottish independence referendum, Brexit, constitutional chaos on the supremacy of parliament and the application of Brexit to N Ireland, and probably, a break up of the Union. We should've kept a coal power station instead.
1064 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes ago
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ghostrider
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what we are experiencing, is something all democracies throughout the world, should be on gaurd for with all diligence , a new weapon, cyberwarfare,look to the examples of what was done to the Georgians prior to full blown military action
cyberwarefare is now being used to influence elections, in free societies
how many lives would 1 side of sacraficed to harm nato ,as much as trumps tongue has?
how many lives would 1 side of sacrificed to harm the eu an england the way brexit has
1064 days, 8 hours, 18 minutes ago
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mjs68508
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"I personally have found planets to be an excellent and much needed distraction from the political season."

Too bad, Blowfish. Management has decreed that this shit be put on the front page. They want to rub your face in it.
1064 days, 7 hours, 53 minutes ago
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rkious
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"It's no game. It's a serious thing which will affect the lifes of millions of people. Probably not the ones who vote in the most serious way because they're still too wealthy (seen globally) but mid-term they will feel the consequences, too."

Hillary is one person I would never vote for. Trump is more my line as far as politically , but who want a jack running the show? Nobody else that can win is running. Planets it is then!
1064 days, 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
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spaxx
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hillary = whorewasp
1064 days, 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
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lunchmoney
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It was reported yesterday that Hilary Clinton is nearing one billion dollars in campaign donations. Until America finds a way to get money out of politics there will only be two kinds of candidates --- bought and paid for corporatists and billionaires. As these people have no incentive to change the system, I suspect that all future elections are going to look a lot like this one.
1064 days, 6 hours, 24 minutes ago
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strangelove007
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Is there anyone for Team Gary Johnson?
I cannot conquer the Aleppo Sector alone.
1064 days, 5 hours, 50 minutes ago
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captain storm
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Well, I simply cannot believe that EITHER party would have even had to think at all to come up with a better candidate. This election is a sad commentary on American politics!

That said, I have to go with a bumper sticker I saw. It had a picture of Hillary on it and it said "Life's a bitch! Why vote for one?!" :-)

ENJOY! :-)
1064 days, 5 hours, 41 minutes ago
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shughes111
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Trump team for sure.
1064 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes ago
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whisperer
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> I would suggest we start a Hillary Camp vs Trump Camp game

That would only be useful if there was a third team of "ANYONE else".

> Are US Citizens bothered by the pre-"election" phase of the Chinese President or german chancelor?

WRT the German Chancellor, most of us aren't, but we should be.

WRT the Chinese President, who cares? China is far more corrupt than any other major power. It's just an exchange of one crook for another, with the new one being at least as crooked. It saddens me that the US Presidential election continues to move in that direction.

> I suspect that all future elections are going to look a lot like this one.

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1064 days, 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
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glyn
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I've been pleasantly surprised that our Canadian politicians have done a lot to reduce both private, corporate and union donations. Of course they are just attacking each others sources of funding, but the end result is good for all Canadians.

What I do miss though, is when Canada at the Federal level had a minority government... which means no single political party can pass legislation without support from other parties. Thankfully our parties hate each other enough that they never form coalitions.

We elected a majority Liberal government in power to undo what the majority Conservative government had just done... all over the issue of marihuana.

I suspect the real reason Canada's political class is more palatable is because we've been using comedians to mock government for a very long time.

To see what I mean; http://www.cbc.ca/mercerreport/videos/clips/ricks-rant-elites
1064 days, 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
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emork the lizard king
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> I suspect that all future elections are going to look a lot like this one.

That's a decision of the voters. If they continue to think they can just vote for Evil 1 or Evil 2 it won't change. Believe it or not ... democracy also works with more than two parties. Admitted this means more effort, more talks, more compromises but also means much less danger that the system degenerates. In the long run it's absolutly worth it.

I guess that the US citizens can't imagine how weird it looks from an European point of view that first father and son and then husband and wife both become president. I can fully understand that people hate such a dynastic political establishment. But protesting by giving the power to a cave man is like a shot in the own knee.
1064 days, 1 hours, 19 minutes ago
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ted
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> But protesting by giving the power to a cave man is like a shot in the own knee.

No. It is bad if a political establishment rule far too long as we see even on our chancelor. And if you look how much disorder the US establishment did create in the last 12 years then anybody else (like a Trump) may be a better choice...
1064 days, 0 hours, 52 minutes ago
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lunchmoney
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@emork+the+lizard+king

Sorry, but I have to disagree here. The voters don't really have any power, and they won't have any power until money isn't a factor in each and every election. You can only vote the candidates that are allowed on the slate. Guaranteed we'll see a comparatively less crazy Trump running in the future...
1064 days, 0 hours, 47 minutes ago
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shoomandogboy
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Emork is correct that the U.S. should not be a two-party system. But the American political system when it was written intended for the voters to be "educated, informed, and aware." Most voters are none of these. Team Libertarian!! (Although I believe the Libertarians could have chosen better than Gary Johnson)
1064 days, 0 hours, 43 minutes ago
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shoomandogboy
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Also, if it has to be the "lesser-of-two-evils," at least Trump, a non-political, might shake up the political elitists and help to stifle the utter corruption in both major parties.
1064 days, 0 hours, 12 minutes ago
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mongo
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For the Libertarian Party it is not about winning, but about getting 5% of the vote. 5% is the threshold for Federal Election Commission funding for Presidential campaigns. ALWAYS BACK TO THE MONEY!... oh well, it is needed and the lack of it the main reason third parties are not successful.
1063 days, 23 hours, 44 minutes ago
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trump
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I have a great relationship with the Crystalline people
1063 days, 23 hours, 43 minutes ago
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hays
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Captivity is a state of mind that implies freedom of choice between two suggested options.
1063 days, 21 hours, 42 minutes ago
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gnerphk
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Because you brought it up:
https://gnerphk.wordpress.com/2016/10/11/hashtagvoteagainst/

Incidentally, most states merely discard write-in candidates. It's Vermont and, I think, four others that bother to count them. Before you write in, check your local election laws. Otherwise, in my opinion, the best protest is a third party.
1063 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes ago
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glyn
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"Would you say it is time for our viewers to crack each others' heads open and feast on the goo inside?"

"Yes, yes I would Ken"

-Simpsons

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@Gnerphk: Gary keeps falling for the typical anti-libertarian attacks hook line and sinker. Don't say what government institutions you'd get rid of... don't talk about anything that a Libertarian President can't even change in the first place.

The best things a Libertarianin President offers is an end to; the war on drugs, the war on terror and actual wars in foreign lands. All of which don't require being a libertarian in the first place.

All the laissez-faire talk is just poison, and because there is no consensus on taxes beside "income tax bad!" I find both our nations Libertarian parties utterly doomed to failure.

Not to mention there is a lot of socialist libertarians that don't share the 'greed-is-good' mentality as much.


I'm still a direct-democracy advocate first and foremost... that seems like the best 3rd party to assemble under.
1063 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes ago
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glyn
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Sigh... "MJS68508: I'm tired of all the political crap on the front page of this site. Bye."

Need replacements for;

Captain's Toy Box; http://play.planets.nu/#/sector/182784

Battle for the Fornax Sector; http://play.planets.nu/#/sector/182564

Rsk and Mandoor took over as replacements in two of his other Sectors already, thanks guys!
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Well this time I don't agree with MJS68508 however.

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1063 days, 18 hours, 18 minutes ago
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gnerphk
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The trouble with direct democracy is that it gives the people what they demand.

Please note that this is never "what they want", "what they ought to have", "what they need", or even "what they ask for, very politely, and in reasonable tones". What the people demand is almost always an overreaction against the very last thing that made them angry, and it's what gave us such wonderful things as laws with mandatory minimum sentences , traffic cops, and the War On Drugs. For a while it got us Prohibition too, and look how that turned out.

No, I'll take "Inefficient Oligarchy" given the option. The Politician Class still bends and sways at the will of the mob, but they know very well what will happen to them if ever they pass a law that proves immediately to be impracticable. They also develop skills in delay, spin, and pseudo-compromise; all these, of course, are aimed at keeping themselves in office, but the fortunate side effect is often that the government limits itself about just how much it hurts the people.

I think of it as "Applying Thumbscrews To Ourselves By Consensus".
1063 days, 6 hours, 38 minutes ago
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strangelove007
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@Shoomandogboy

> Although I believe the Libertarians could have chosen better than Gary Johnson

Do you mean you could imagine a better candidate in general (I agree) or do you mean that one of the existing candidates would have been better (I wonder)?
https://www.lp.org/candidates/presidential-candidates-2016
1063 days, 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
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ikester
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The first thing about American politics is that the Presidential election and elections for the rest of our legislative representation are different. The Presidential election winner is chosen through the Electoral College. Whoever wins the majority in a state takes all the electors, although Maine and Nebraska do divvy up the electors differently, but that's a whopping 7 electoral votes. In a state where one party dominates (like mine), it really doesn't matter who you vote for, all the electoral votes go to the dominant party's nominee. In Maryland, the Democratic nominee will get all the electoral votes. It won't stop me from voting for a 3rd party.

Frankly, I'm more interested in my local school board election than any race. My area has been gerrymandered into a House district mostly made up of Baltimore City (I'm 25 miles away). But, I will still vote and keep trying with the hopes that maybe the electorate will wake up, although I'm not holding my breath.