In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

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1045 days, 13 hours, 30 minutes ago

commander koski

In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

In classic games there should be max rank and min rank games. I love classic Planets but now I'm playing as Privateer against a player who doesn't seem to know that Privateers can rob and tow capture ships. This is pretty unfair situation for the other players.

1045 days, 13 hours, 14 minutes ago

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

teach him ...

1045 days, 12 hours, 36 minutes ago

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

That's how I learned about the Privateers, and I expect most other players learned similarly. It's a necessary "right of passage" for a new Planets.nu player. Unfortunately, it's not pleasant for the new player :(

1045 days, 11 hours, 53 minutes ago

commander koski

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

Of course, @Ted , but I'm also going to enjoy these freebies. I'm basically being donated ships and as this is not a mentor game, I'm getting quite a leverage against the other players. But perhaps this is the way it should be.

1045 days, 10 hours, 58 minutes ago

paudolf

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

When I found a player that is new at game, don't use to attack him, but try to teach him and try to get he got a better player and so another planets lover.

1045 days, 10 hours, 46 minutes ago

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

I agree, Koski. Beginner games exist for that reason, and there should be no way for people to confuse those with Classic games.

1045 days, 10 hours, 21 minutes ago

kelmain

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

I think what @CK was suggesting is that there should be at least a couple levels of Classic games and I agree. Two levels of Classic games would be appropriate, beginner and veteran.

By suggesting that beginners shouldn't join "Classic games", we are essentially guaranteeing that new players wont ever evolve into classic players and that the number of Classic players we have now will ever diminish.

1045 days, 10 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

> I think what @CK was suggesting is that there should be at least a couple levels of Classic games

There's a Junior Officer's Classic out there, but it's not getting much Interest. Apparently the new players want to be taught the hard way.

http://planets.nu/#/sector/182605

1045 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes ago

kelmain

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

I doubt many new players are looking at custom/interest games.

1045 days, 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

Aye, Kel -- hence the problem.

1045 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

> I doubt many new players are looking at custom/interest games.

Perhaps that should be part of their training. Most of the custom games are honest (not deliberately skewed), and, unlike VGAP, there's nothing that the Hosting player can do to the turn files of other players.

The particular game I linked to specifies that the Host (now a Rear Admiral) won't be playing, removing any incentive for the game to be intentionally skewed. Also, I believe the settings in that game are the same as a system-generated Classic game, except for the rank limits.

1045 days, 6 hours, 11 minutes ago

kelmain

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

I'm not suggesting that custom games couldn't be a good option, just that any attempt to fill them by education of new players is bound to be less effective and way more work than creating a Beginners Classic game as a standard game option (I'd suggest a 1/3 ratio of Classic to Standard beginner games).

1045 days, 4 hours, 28 minutes ago

RE: In classic games there should be max rank and min rank...

> creating a Beginners Classic game as a standard game option

That has been suggested ... and ignored. I believe Joshua wants new players to use Standard, even though it's significantly different than the VGAP3 that most of the players came from.