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1710 days, 20 hours, 36 minutes ago

New game THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy...

New game THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy Joining now. More ships and giant Map.

1710 days, 20 hours, 34 minutes ago

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details? link?

1710 days, 20 hours, 27 minutes ago

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THE GREAT BIG WAR
http://play.planets.nu/#/sector/123776

1710 days, 20 hours, 21 minutes ago

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Campaign mode enabled
Max advantage 500
Diplomatic Planets
900 ships 500 planets
Kill dead races

1710 days, 17 hours, 58 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Dude, with a larger map and the same amount of planets there will be huge gulfs and such. Fuel will become a huge issue. Massive Colonial advantage, major Robot/Empire disadvantage. No?

1710 days, 11 hours, 42 minutes ago

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Perhaps a great player can over come this disadvantage. You should take the Colonial race and show me what your talking about, I'm playing the Birds who never have an advantage.

1710 days, 11 hours, 7 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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I'd love too but am over loaded on games already.

1710 days, 11 hours, 6 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Also was that just game hype or do you not really know what I'm talking about?

1710 days, 10 hours, 57 minutes ago

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@Larry+Mccarthy,

The Colonial advantage is due to the Cobol, which generates fuel as it moves. This fuel can be used to keep a Virgo moving.

The Robot/Empire disadvantage (also a Cyborg disadvantage) is that it takes a LOT of fuel to move those big carriers.

1710 days, 10 hours, 56 minutes ago

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Prediction - The winners will be the COlonials, allied with the Fascists, Crystals, or both.

1710 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes ago

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Sounds like a Borg-fest to me.

1710 days, 9 hours, 34 minutes ago

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I agree with Smn. Once the Borg get starbases and Fireclouds built around the cluster they can move their fleets in a single turn for 50KT of fuel. Unless someone kills them immediately, and even then with such a high ship limit I'm sure they can come back elsewhere, they will dominate.

1710 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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This assumes a competent Borg player...this game is very interesting. Colonial has been snatched up. I'm giving some thought to joining just to see how it plays. Not sure I'd be able to finish a monster game like that though. I'll think about it.

1710 days, 8 hours, 58 minutes ago

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Not calling myself a competent Borg play or a competent MCOM player for that matter... but I just researched the Tantrum Liner and I dieing to see it in action.

That and I was going to have to turn off too many of my favorite advantages to get down to 500 as a Borg player.

I do believe a strong Borg player will be difficult to deal with.

1710 days, 8 hours, 56 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Isn't 500 the typical advantage amount?

1710 days, 8 hours, 53 minutes ago

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I have not played many "Campaign Mode: Enabled" games so I am not sure what the typical advantage is for that style of game. I am more a classic player but I been branching out to the others and getting my butt handed to me.

1710 days, 7 hours, 25 minutes ago

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The "Base Advantage" of the races varies from 405 to 500, with an average of 459.

1708 days, 4 hours, 14 minutes ago

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Other threads on this subject:

http://planets.nu/#/activity/1690520
http://planets.nu/#/activity/1691878

Some questions were asked about the geometry of this game. They're still unanswered.

@Larry+Mccarthy,

If you want to fill your game, it might be a good idea to answer people's questions.

1708 days, 4 hours, 9 minutes ago

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Just as a heads up, I joined a game like this with Larry, it was given the go-ahead by Joshua to give achievement rewards, and when Larry was close to being eliminated (as he is a truly horrible player), he deleted the game, and I lost all achievement points I had accumulated.

I *think* Joshua has fixed this, but you had best clarify before you join.

I would actually recommend against joining at all, but at least go in with your eyes open.

1708 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes ago

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"he deleted the game"

Well my interest in this game has dropped to zero now.

What was the deal with that move Larry?

1707 days, 22 hours, 59 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Let us not judge too harshly. Perhaps that was his way of conceding (or rage quitting) and didn't realize he'd be messing up achievements.

I'll wait to hear from him.

1707 days, 22 hours, 6 minutes ago

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Its not true. Furey hates me for a falling out we had, in a game I can't even remember. I just finished a game ROCK SECTOR I finished in third place. I would bet all the players in that game would say I'm a good guy and play well with others. I've had the privilege of playing in two game with Emork The Lizard king and I think he too would give me credit for being a reliable ally. Haters are going to hate, players are going to play play play.

1707 days, 22 hours, 5 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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Being a reliable ally is easy, just bend far enough ;)

1707 days, 21 hours, 43 minutes ago

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starship workers union is wildly against that bending!

1707 days, 20 hours, 14 minutes ago

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For the record its not possible for the host to delete public running games anymore. So if the game becomes public there is no fear of the host making a mistake.

1705 days, 6 hours, 28 minutes ago

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@Larry+Mccarthy,

Yet another announcement of this game:

http://test.planets.nu/#/activity/1696265

You've picked up three players in six days. It appears that there's little demand for this game.

Suggestion: Delete the game and recreate it with the Public flag set, and you won't have to announce it at all. It will be on the public Game List (either under "New Games" or "Interest").

1705 days, 5 hours, 34 minutes ago

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Larry: "Its not true."

You were both in Sector 63013, Diehard Low Natives. But it hasn't been deleted and Furey is still in it, so clearly Furey isn't talking about that one.

So this other game never existed or you deleted it...

So which is it Larry.

1705 days, 2 hours, 46 minutes ago

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Poor Larry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvLikiVraHE

1705 days, 2 hours, 19 minutes ago

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Because I've seen Impractical Jokers, for fun in crowded stores I cry out, "LArrrryy... LARRrry!"

1705 days, 0 hours, 30 minutes ago

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I wish the community would address bullying at PLANETS.NU. This type of behavior makes me sick.

1704 days, 23 hours, 50 minutes ago

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1704 days, 21 hours, 22 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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No one can address bullying but the bullied. Speak out. Fight back. Don't be a pussy, that's the only solution. In schools they try to teach the kids to appeal to authority when bullied, to tell the teacher. It doesn't work. You have to take care of it yourself. I'm convinced there is no other way. Schools are wrong.

Crying for it to be addressed just sets you up as a victim. Here you are of equal power, equal station. If you are having trouble being victimized by bullies then you are just being a huge pussy.

1704 days, 20 hours, 40 minutes ago

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Without comment toward the trolling or the trolled:

This looks like an interesting concept and a potentially marathon game. I wish you well with it, folks.

1704 days, 20 hours, 4 minutes ago

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/ . º ʖ̯ º . \

Wow, avoid the question much?

I'm sorry I don't like people deleting games without consent.

I'm sorry you think text can 'bully' you.

1704 days, 19 hours, 29 minutes ago

celestial

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If your not interested in his game. The simple answer is don't join it. Even better ignore the thread and spend your Christmas time doing something you DO enjoy.As far as whether text can bully though.
1,180,000 results for 'Cyber bullying suicide'
Maybe it can.

1704 days, 11 hours, 53 minutes ago

mule

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I just scanned the whole thread and can't figure out who is supposedly being "bullied." But, I'll take exception to Joe's use of the word "pussy" to describe someone willing to be bullied. Wiki says it means ""cat, coward or weakling, and the human vulva or vagina. Since this word has so many meanings, why not use something more accurate and specific? It's not the vulgarity that bothers me as much as the inaccuracy.

That said, I agree society (PARENTS - not schools) should teach their children to defend themselves. Schools have other things to be responsible for. Not that they (or law enforcement) should ignore ANY form of abuse.
OK, end of that rant. :)

Back to your regular channel:
THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy

1704 days, 11 hours, 53 minutes ago

mule

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I just scanned the whole thread and can't figure out who is supposedly being "bullied." But, I'll take exception to Joe's use of the word "pussy" to describe someone willing to be bullied. Wiki says it means ""cat, coward or weakling, and the human vulva or vagina. Since this word has so many meanings, why not use something more accurate and specific? It's not the vulgarity that bothers me as much as the inaccuracy.

That said, I agree society (PARENTS - not schools) should teach their children to defend themselves. Schools have other things to be responsible for. Not that they (or law enforcement) should ignore ANY form of abuse.
OK, end of that rant. :)

Back to your regular channel:
THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy

1704 days, 10 hours, 42 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Not a single person was confused by the wording.

Honestly I like the word candy ass better but I used the word pussy for the shock value. Internet whiners piss me off as much as trolls do. I think they are worse, wallowing, negative. Letting bad shit control their moods. Without them trolls are a side show.

It's easy to get upset though. Very easy. But grow a spine, be assertive or disengage, control your life as much as you can. Don't victimize yourself. People kill themselves over this shit. It's way out of hand.

1704 days, 10 hours, 34 minutes ago

mule

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Joe, I get all that and mostly agree.

It's the gender connotations I object to. I think you are insulting women with a stereotype without basis and for no good reason. I've known many women that are far tougher than most men I know.

Now, leave that out of it and say many of us need to learn (at home) more self reliance at an early age and I am on your side.

1704 days, 9 hours, 53 minutes ago

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@Celestial,

> ignore the thread

I'd love to, but some fool keeps starting new threads for the same game. I don't know whether it's because he doesn't want to bother to find the original, he's too ignorant to keep track of the thread he started, he's trying to get people to not notice the numerous unanswered questions, or he just wants to spam the newsfeed.

> As far as whether text can bully though.
> 1,180,000 results for 'Cyber bullying suicide'
> Maybe it can.

Apparently the world is too full of people who value other people's opinions above their own lives.

Look at it as evolution in action.

1704 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes ago

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Well, if my post was considered bullying:

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Poor Larry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvLikiVraHE
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that is just silly. I grew up listening to Dr. Demento and Larry "Wild Man" Fisher was considered a cult hero amongst us Dementions and Dementites.

"Fish heads, fish heads, rolly polly fish heads,
fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, yum!"

1704 days, 9 hours, 44 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Yeah, I may have overshot the mark with my wording, but it illustrates the point. People want to get upset and offended by everything. Saying someone is acting like a pussy isn't some mortal slight to women. That's just invented outrage, word police.

Shall I object to you even mentioning that women aren't expected to be as tough as men? I know it's dumb*, but why even bring that up but to point out the surprising nature of it? Why does it surprise you, are you sexist? We could round and round playing word police all day. But that's just lame.**

*Dumb denigrates people with speech problems.
**Lame denigrates persons with a disability.

1704 days, 9 hours, 40 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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But now I'm just having fun Mule. I will agree that the 'p' word is among some of the more nasty ones. I work in law, where people have actual problems. So these sorts of things, well, I think you can understand how working with real *#&@ed* up things on a daily basis can skew your attitude.

*Horribly offensive word to some people, referring to rape by consent of the king...hard to follow that one but I've been called out on it by word police before.

1704 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes ago

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Mule, don't forget Willow Tree. (Courtesy of Bernadette of Big Bang Theory.)

1704 days, 9 hours, 34 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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You know what, I'm a dick.

This is the incorrect forum for pushing the boundaries of polite conversation. For that, my bad.

1704 days, 9 hours, 11 minutes ago

mule

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Word Police? Two answers: OK, maybe three. :)

1) Some words have supported and justified prejudices long enough. Especially those words that speak to negative stereotypes. I will call BS on that whenever I see/hear it.

2) My sainted Grandmother used to tell me that vulgarity is an inability to use more intelligent or descriptive words. Of course, then she would ruin it by calling it "Stier Scheiße." - B.S. to you English types. :)

3) The words we use impact how we think. It's just easier for most people to follow the pack.

The whole suicide because of internet bullying IS hard to understand for those of us that grew up in a different time. But, I try to put it into the context I grew up in and it's a little easier to "get." Humans are social animals and social acceptance can be much more important to some of us. Would you call a Samurai a coward for committing seppuku because of how his society would view him?

1704 days, 9 hours, 10 minutes ago

mule

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My bad for not reading the last 4 posts before posting. All is forgiven!

1704 days, 8 hours, 52 minutes ago

mule

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MJS, I don't remember the Willow Tree quote.

I do remember her saying, "It just builds character. Like my dad said, "Nobody likes a cry baby but their moms and Democrats."

1704 days, 8 hours, 46 minutes ago

mule

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or...

Bernadette: Like our lawyers say, the world is full of things that can cause a rectum to bleed.

I assume in reference to her weaponized small pox. :)

OK, off subject.

Back to: LARRY'S GREAT BIG WAR

1704 days, 7 hours, 52 minutes ago

rkious

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Dr. Demento .... Now how does that remind me of this thread? Oh! A Song. They're coming to take me away.They're coming to take me away.The Little white men in the little white suits......They're coming to take me away!

1704 days, 7 hours, 29 minutes ago

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@Mule,

> Would you call a Samurai a coward for committing seppuku because of how his society would view him?

Yes.

1704 days, 7 hours, 25 minutes ago

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@Joseph+Bradshaw,

> This is the incorrect forum for pushing the boundaries of polite conversation.

Any public forum (and most private forums) with your real name or email attached is an incorrect forum for pushing the boundaries of polite conversation.

1704 days, 6 hours, 21 minutes ago

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@Whisperer

That all depends on the population of the forum. There's a particular forum I've been on for many years now... we have a core group of probably 40-50 people. We most certainly push way past the boundaries of polite conversation on a daily basis.. lol.
The difference there is that we're all adults who are ultimately capable of behaving like adults ;)

1704 days, 6 hours, 12 minutes ago

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@Rhunter,

I understand your point of view, but I'm not sure that you understand mine. My issue has to do with the capabilities of Google, Bing, et. al. to dredge up data on people, if your name or email is attached to the post.

When you use a pseudonym, it's harder to trace, and not something that a perspective employer, or a lawyer, could use against you.

1704 days, 6 hours, 9 minutes ago

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Oh no, I understand your point perfectly fine. One thing I should have added to my previous reply was that none of us on that particular forum typically use a pseudonym at all and we all have a munged version of our email address (to keep away the spam bots) as our contact info there as well.

1704 days, 5 hours, 22 minutes ago

broseph

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Yay new name.

1704 days, 4 hours, 24 minutes ago

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@Joseph+Bradshaw,

> I carry a gun around just in case

I assume you have a CC permit for that. Those are almost impossible to get here, unless you're a Judge or a Politician.

1704 days, 4 hours, 12 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Yeah, they are pretty easy to get in the US. Just do a background check, not be crazy. Not sure why other countries or places ban them or make them hard to get. The instances of someone with a concealed carry license using their gun unlawfully are very uncommon.

1704 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes ago

joseph bradshaw

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Scratch that, I know why. Fear.

1704 days, 3 hours, 24 minutes ago

majordzaster

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Uh, well, gotta call you on that one Joe. I was a crime reporter for 25 years, and I've seen so many people shot by 'legal' firearms it's ridiculous. Everything from mass school shootings, shootings at workplaces, or even two years in a row I spent at murder scenes on friggin' Christmas, when family members shot each other LITERALLY over turkey dinner.
I was also in a job that was extremely dangerous, but I would never carry a gun. Guns make it too easy to kill people. You have a bad day, go into a rage, and a few pounds of trigger pull is all it takes to end someone's life. I'm not okay with that. I may have had to resort to violence to defend myself, but life is sacred to me.
Instead, I have a black belt, and I'm trained to use handheld weapons and defend against them. I say this as someone who has been attacked many times. I had a contract on my life from a drug gang at one point ... still not gonna get a gun. I've even been shot at a couple times. I know martial arts won't stop a bullet, but I'm willing to take a stand on principle, and NOT carry a gun.
IMHO there's a reason so many people are killed in the US as opposed to Europe or even Canada; it's the US gun culture. The idea it's okay to carry concealed firearms and shoot people if you feel threatened.
I respect your right to argue in favour of concealed weapon laws, but I don't agree it's a good thing for the country.
If you know what you're doing, you can protect yourself without a gun, and there are people who provide that training. In my case, a Navy Seal, a former Marine instructor and an RCMP hand-to-hand combat instructor showed me how to survive an encounter even with someone armed with a gun.
I do know how to shoot by the way, but my gun stays locked up at the range where it can't hurt anyone.

1704 days, 3 hours, 8 minutes ago

donq

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Have to agree with Majordzaster. The only reason you carry a gun is because you are afraid. There are many choices that could be made that go out the window when you have a gun. That is the issue we are seeing with Police in the US right now. It is easiest, simplest and most safe for them to use lethal force. It is not the best choice, however.

1704 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes ago

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Throwing knives are deadly close range and historically the worst attacks in schools were bombs.

This thread took a turn...

1704 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes ago

broseph

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Not what I said, but you soap box well. People using their concealed weapon permit unlawfully is what I addressed. It was a very narrow statement. Try not to cast me as some big gun advocate.

1704 days, 2 hours, 53 minutes ago

broseph

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Also I'm loving all the blackbelt v. guns and gangs talk. You probably didn't mean it to be funny. Internet guys talking about how tough they are is not as funny as when guys do it in real life, but still pretty funny.

1704 days, 1 hours, 43 minutes ago

majordzaster

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My favourite self defence tactic is actually running away In my job i was interested in surviving unscathed, not being tough. I just really don't like guns because I have seen many times the results, and a lot of those victims were kids and teenagers.

1704 days, 1 hours, 29 minutes ago

broseph

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1704 days, 1 hours, 4 minutes ago

broseph

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My gun doesn't come out unless someone else's does, and people know I'm packing so that helps. Thankfully I've never had to pull it, though I did take it out once due too some cops who were snooping around my place undercover. Dumbasses. I've been in a couple dozen altercations over the years but nothing rising above the level of broken bottles, so I'm thankful for that.

I don't run when the shit hits the fan, rather I'm hyper vigilant about not getting into the position to be cornered. It's exhausting being 'on' all the time you are in public. Living in a small town where everyone knows you.

I quit criminal and divorce law recently and moved so I don't carry anymore. It's pretty great. I just do online consults now. Best job I ever had.

I love talking tough guy stuff. Before law school I was training up for my first amateur cage fight. My opponent backed out, after that having my face *#&@ed up all the time was detrimental to my career. Still, I'm not ignorant enough to think I'd survive against more than one or two guys no matter how physically pathetic they were. Only the worst McDojo would give you a feeling of confidence versus an armed assailant, especially one with a gun. I bounced strip clubs through law school and college though, so have street violence experience. It ain't like TV or UFC, it's chaos given form. No black belt prepares you. And I'm on the internet, so I can act tough and know what I'm talking about. lol.

Though it isn't people like me causing all of the gun violence in the US, I'd still support a blanket pistol ban in the US and mental health checks for long guns. Statistically that is the right move to avoid all these deaths. Long guns cause barely any deaths statistically, its' mostly all pistols, but the mass murders are done by crazies with long guns. So you have to close that hole. Note shotguns are barely used for any murders, so there's no real reason to regulate them. 'Cept for fear.

But really guns are just a political hot potato. Smoking, booze and cornsyrup cause more deaths each year than guns but we just sit back and let it happen.

If a diabetic falls while smoking and driving drunk in the woods does it make a sound? Not in US politics.

1704 days, 0 hours, 55 minutes ago

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This thread brought to you by 'murica.

1704 days, 0 hours, 52 minutes ago

broseph

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It's a *#&@ed up country dude. No denying it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOEIruwzf54

1703 days, 23 hours, 44 minutes ago

mule

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In the US gun ownership is a subject neither side can discuss logically. The statistics are clear, but are generally ignored or explained away. And the NRA obstructs any possible compromise because it might cut into gun sales.

After a lifetime of gun ownership, I made a personal decision I could live without guns. At least nobody, not my loved ones or anyone else, will ever be killed because by a gun I paid for. There are just too many better solutions. Locks, alarms, and friendship. I think if we spent the same money and effort on education and opportunity for all our citizens, there would be many fewer reasons for such violence. And, like majordzaster, I firmly subscribe to running away instead of standing my ground. Death is entirely to permanent - for either of us.

If I ever become a policeman, soldier, bank guard, diamond merchant, etc. I will of course arm myself. But, at my age, that's not too likely. :)

1703 days, 22 hours, 52 minutes ago

mule

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Arggg... I should know better than to join such conversations. They never change anyone's minds and only create animosity.

Nor are they Planets related. Oh... I would give your left arm for an edit or delete option!

1703 days, 11 hours, 48 minutes ago

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>>> I carry a gun around just in case

>>I assume you have a CC permit for that. Those are almost impossible to get here, unless you're a Judge or a Politician.

> Yeah, they are pretty easy to get in the US. Just do a background check, not be crazy.

I *AM* in the US. In California, the County Sheriff issues CC permits. In addition to the normal requirements (fingerprint for background check and handgun training) residents are required to show "good cause" (as defined by the Sheriff) that they need the permit. In most of the central/southern coastal counties (Marin and south), and a few others, the "good cause" requirement has been used to significantly limit the number of permits issued. In February, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco (Peruta v. San Diego County) ruled that this requirement violates the 2nd Amendment, but that Ruling is on hold as San Diego county has requested an en-banc (11 judges instead of only 3) review.

In addition, in 2013, California made "open carry" unlawful.

For those not living in California, there are a total of eight states that have the ability to deny CC permits for reasons other than criminal record, drug abuse, domestic violence or mental instability.

So, NO. CC permits aren't easy to get just because someone lives in the US.

1703 days, 11 hours, 35 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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Tells a lot more about society if you need to carry a gun 'just in case'.

1703 days, 11 hours, 24 minutes ago

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Manifest Destiny, individual liberty, wild west iconology, distrust of authority, vast numbers of guns, NRA, corporate-controlled government, mental health not important to society, ineffective gun laws, violent media, prevalence of alcohol and drugs...

Please pick one or more above (or other) to explain our society here in America.

1703 days, 11 hours, 6 minutes ago

mule

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We can discuss safety standards or rules on almost anything else, but talking about guns is like talking about someone's belief in God. Many feel threatened by even having a comprehensive discussion on the subject. And that will never bring any solutions.

1703 days, 10 hours, 52 minutes ago

ace rimmer

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God and politics should be banned from all forums, especially gaming forums. The world would be a better place.

Ace

1703 days, 10 hours, 45 minutes ago

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@Ace+Rimmer,

> God and politics should be banned from all forums, especially gaming forums. The world would be a better place.

Perhaps, but at least it's more interesting than the original topic of this thread :D

1703 days, 10 hours, 44 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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Dunno, we've a conscript army and traditionally at least 80 percent of males go through armed service so I think in overall we've a lot more understanding of guns (and training) than yours ;)

But we still don't have a need to own a gun, not to mention carrying it (strictly forbidden).

But god bless and so on :D

1703 days, 9 hours, 34 minutes ago

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Ace, I agree up to a point. Gaming and Coffee Shops are "Truce" areas for me where we not only have fun, but we all have a chance to see that those who believe so much different than us, are people, too. It is usually handled by there being a section of a forum called "coffee shop" or "other stuff" where we never have to go if we don't want to (and I very seldom, if ever, do go).

Unfortunately, despite Joshua's brilliance in programming and extreme helpfulness, he is married to this activity (aggravation) feed. The problem is not the off-topic talk; the problem is the lack of proper place for it. Every site should have an outlet.

1703 days, 9 hours, 16 minutes ago

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The only guns I want to hear about here are Heavy Phasers or Disruptors. Coincidentally I don't want either of those taken away either, but really, there are other places for those discussions......VGAP Nu is a great way to get away from people taking away rights, giving security over liberty, order versus chaos...what have you...I just want the damn pirates to leave me alone.

1703 days, 8 hours, 45 minutes ago

mule

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I agree with MJS for the most part.

I would prefer an organized forum. But, Joshua seems adamantly opposed to a proper forum. Nor has he posted any limitations on feed topics. From this I can only gather that he desires our occasional controversy.

If you don't want an attack, then don't chum the water. If you don't like to see blood in the water, then don't look.

1703 days, 8 hours, 1 minutes ago

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Stop bleeding in my water! Troll's blood stinks to high heaven.

1702 days, 23 hours, 4 minutes ago

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I have a funny gun story from years ago. At 1AM RCMP bashed my front and back doors down to execute a search warrant for someone that has never lived in my house. The first pig through the front door was holding his handgun by the barrel and whacked me on the head with its handle.

So like typical they never announced themselves, wouldn't even explain why they were in my house for about 1/2 an hour, refused to identify their names... and when I finally saw the search warrant they refused to give me a copy. You can't get compensation in Canada for any damage from a search warrant, even if they blow up the wrong house, but not having a copy of the search warrant meant I couldn't file a complaint. Canada, "land of the free" my arse.

Walked to the hospital to get stitches for the gash in on head, learned from a nurse that I'm not the first one with a story of getting hit with the handle of a handgun.

Whatever your views on handguns... pretty sure we'd all agree you don't whack people with them, especially while holding the barrel end.

For everyone whining... seriously, you are more annoying that people arguing politics. Get over yourself princess.

1702 days, 22 hours, 56 minutes ago

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It's interesting hearing about the CC laws in California. Here in Florida, it's beyond easy to get, and half the state is carrying (I exaggerate, but not much). At one point, there was even an app (it probably still exists), that people could load, register, and then you could see how many people in your vicinity were registered concealed carriers. Feel safer, maybe, but really just a validation thing I guess.

That said, it's crazy down here, and my views on guns changed a lot when I moved here from the northeast.

1702 days, 21 hours, 30 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/19/health/countries-guns-study/

"The United States and Japan were on opposite extremes of the scale of gun ownership, with 88.8 guns per 100 Americans and 0.6 guns per 100 Japanese.

They were also on opposite extremes for firearm-related deaths -- 10.2 deaths per 100,000 people in the United States versus 0.06 per 100,000 in Japan. Britain's death rate was also low, at 0.25 per 100,000."

1702 days, 21 hours, 28 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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... for the record I only have this;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suomi_KP/-31

"deactivated", easily reactived if need comes :D

1702 days, 20 hours, 53 minutes ago

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an ugly Thompson without a fore grip and poor ancestry?

1702 days, 20 hours, 41 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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Its not shot from hip, you want to actually hit something. Extremely accurate thanks to relatively long barrel, low recoil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxHeCyqbHk8

1702 days, 20 hours, 21 minutes ago

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Am curious regarding nonviolent crime statistics worldwide. Logically, these should track relative to violent crime; likewise armed robbery.

Personally, I'm an American gun-owner who loves Iceland.

1702 days, 20 hours, 21 minutes ago

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the Thompson is shot from shoulder also,but with a shorter barrel to facilitate close combat, also explaining the high rate of fire and the 45 caliber rounds....we call that "AMERICAN style" ;)

1702 days, 20 hours, 19 minutes ago

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and no, Gnerphk, you are neither....

1702 days, 20 hours, 11 minutes ago

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you are both sane, and German :D

1702 days, 19 hours, 49 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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@Gnerpkh; logically thinking available guns mean usually higher death toll. It is rather easy to kill with a gun. Takes more of a man (or woman) to beat someone to death or for example stab with knife.

From psychological point of view its far more harder (to most people) physically hit someone (fists, knives, axe whatever) than shoot from distance which is more or less clinical action. Hitting from close distance is far more intimate if that word can be used in this connection :)

There are few studies about the matter but I'm too lazy now to dig those up.

1702 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes ago

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The Thompson Sub Machine Gun, "When you absolutely, positively need to kill everyone in the room, accept no substitutes...."

1702 days, 19 hours, 6 minutes ago

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>But we still don't have a need to own a gun, not to mention carrying it (strictly forbidden).

@Ville:

Today, you are right with this in your or my own country in europe. But i fear we are on the way into the American trap already. Our politicans emphasizing a self-image of Germany as a nation with a high proportion of immigrants. They say its a chance for Germany/Europe. Nevertheless, people feel that these are lies because in real life they see that prices and the crime rate are rising. Only the much larger social assistance prevent today what we see and fear already in the US. Frankly, i did think about to get a gun already :) because the truth is that at some point only a brute self defence can protect you and your family. Maybe that also the reason that right-wing parties achieve their best election results in europe currently.

1702 days, 18 hours, 54 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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Christmas bonus question and then I'm out; What country has the World's highest incarceration rate ? If we ignore North Korea because of lack of reliable statistics :D

1702 days, 18 hours, 28 minutes ago

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per capita?

1702 days, 18 hours, 20 minutes ago

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http://www.statista.com/statistics/262962/countries-with-the-most-prisoners-per-100-000-inhabitants/

1702 days, 18 hours, 5 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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Yep. If we ignore Seychelles as it has total population less than 100 000 its clear that freedom, safety and guns don't mix ;) 707 prisoners per 100 000 inhabitants compared to for example 55 in Finland.

http://www.prisonstudies.org/highest-to-lowest/prison_population_rate?field_region_taxonomy_tid=All

1702 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes ago

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Dig into the incarceration rate and you'll see our criminalization of drugs inflates it quite a bit. I remember seeing a stat a few months back that the illegal drug trade accounts for a good portion of the homicide rate as well.

1702 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes ago

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I think that any conclusion that firearms ownership can be tied to a high prison population is reflective of a complacent pernicious ignorance.

It seems apparent to me that population density, an acquisitive gestalt in the society, and a plethora of laws against permissive crime lead to a large number of convictions for said crime followed inexorably by a large prison population.

If it can be said to be easy to kill with a firearm, it can also be said to be easy to kill an unarmed person while armed in whatever effective fashion.

But I would personally take this to signify that Ville is partially correct: that freedom and safety are incompatible. I don't know of any free countries, though; my own (the US) seems on the other hand to be a prison country. (Why people flee to here from Cuba is a bit of a mystery.)

Finally: While I respect Germany and Germans, I am not one. I am descended in long line of Owain Glyndwyr, Lord of Glyndyfrdwy and last reigning Prince of Wales. Another line is traced to the sons of the de Clints, and followed the Fraser clan in a similar uprising. Then too there are many who fought for their religious freedom in France before their exile. Saecsen, Gael, Celt, Scot, and Bretagnese; these, certainly -- but not German, not for a thousand years back.

And I do love Iceland. Find them on that prisoners list, and tell me you don't want to move there yourself. Sweden's sitting pretty too.

1702 days, 15 hours, 4 minutes ago

mule

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The US is currently having problems (when did we not?) driven by wealth inequality. I suspect this situation is not unique to the US. And, in the US this also manifests itself as a race problem because this wealth disparity seems to track racial lines.

Rather than trying harder to solve what is actually an economic and opportunity problem at it's source and give everyone a real stake in our society's success, we try to maintain the status quo by locking up more of our population than anybody else, increasing the wealth disparity, and spreading more guns around than anybody else.

Then we have powerful news sources tossing fuel on the fire by telling us that we should live in fear and never never compromise with those we disagree with.

In my view this is not likely end very well.

1702 days, 14 hours, 27 minutes ago

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Oh, I don't know; Australia was once much the same, and it seems to have turned out just fine.

1702 days, 14 hours, 27 minutes ago

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@Mule, suffice to say this isn't really the proper place for political discussions... that being said, your views on what is driving the problems in this country are simply your opinion on the causes of said problems and not some country-wide widely accepted scenario (just for anyone outside this country who may be reading this).
Your particular stated "causes" sound more like the talking points of a particular party (which are typically regurgitated by the mainstream media ad nauseum), than anything else.

Merry Christmas!

1702 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes ago

ville kauppinen

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As far as I know all drugs are illegal in almost every western country (some have legal "minor" drugs) but for example nordic countries have zero. Including Finland, Iceland and Sweden.

But theres no question about firearms and shooting involved in drugs, here its just a "bit" more uncommon since all firearms in public places are illegal, except police. And even they should have a serious reason to use one - in comparison to recent events in States all trigger-happy policemen would've been sentenced into long, nice vacations in prison.

In Finland police uses firearm and fires 10-15 shots a YEAR. And most of them are warning shots.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/finnish_police_fired_a_gun_only_six_times_in_2013/7701005
"Finnish Police fired a gun only six times in 2013"

1702 days, 13 hours, 58 minutes ago

mule

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rhunter: regarding "proper place" for these vents (hardly discussions) - I figure my opinions are as valid as anyone's. Now, if you think NONE OF US should post personal opinions on political affairs here, I will not argue. I would suggest you need to take that suggestion to Joshua though.

Going back to see where this thread went off the rails I find it went from bullying to
> I carry a gun around just in case
> I assume you have a CC permit for that
> (several more about guns) > Manifest Destiny, etc.
> forums > RCMP violence > more about guns
> Thompson Sub Machine Gun > more about guns
> high prison population
> and finally my comment about income disparity not being especially good in our gun crazy society. (OK, I didn't say gun crazy - but I thought it.)

And NOW you choose to say this isn't the proper place for political opinions and to suggest I am regurgitating some specific political party's talking points.

Sorry, but I have to chuckle about that. My opinions are my own - arrived at by personal observation. If some political party seems to agree with me - good for them. If you disagree, I will assume you arrived at that on your own and not just because some OTHER political party disagrees with me. Fair? :)

1702 days, 13 hours, 53 minutes ago

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I dispute that any internet-capable individual could possibly arrive at an opinion about any politicized topic independently.

1702 days, 13 hours, 52 minutes ago

mule

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PS... Merry Christmas!

Peace on Earth - Good Will to Men and Women and Children and other races, religions, nationalities, politics, ... and so on ...

1702 days, 13 hours, 51 minutes ago

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The west accepted alcohol as the drug of choice, the east pot, opium, etc. In some countries in the east consumption of alcohol is as illegal as opium consumption is in the west.

1702 days, 13 hours, 34 minutes ago

mule

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Hmmmm...

I'll have to think about that as I add a little Schnapps to my Christmas morning coffee.

By summertime, I could also enjoy a certain plant based recreational drug because my state decided to take that income source away from the cartels. One hopes that will help alleviate some of our prison overcrowding as well.

I just don't understand why "just say no" didn't work or locking people up hasn't either. It not like the problem has been around since the flowers associated with Neanderthal burials had psychoactive properties... Oh wait...

1702 days, 9 hours, 25 minutes ago

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@Mule,
You can chuckle all you like, but when you go about implying that your opinion on what is driving the problems is this county is fact, I feel the need (as a die-hard independent voter, not tied to nor caring for EITHER political party) to point out to anyone who may not realize such that your opinions are simply your opinions and not anything resembling an accepted fact behind these issues.

And yes, your talking points are literally those of the Democratic party in this country: Guns are evil, the rich are evil and destroying the way of life for the "non-rich", and the implication that all richy-riches are racist. (conversely my observations over the years are very, very different from what you say yours are)

As for whether you feel someone should moderate this feed or not is inconsequential to me; it may well go the way all of these types of things go... Open topics, to free for all, to moderated, etc., etc. Until it becomes moderated in some fashion please feel free to knock yourself out talking about whatever you desire. But what I said remains true: This is an activity feed for gaming.. political discussions really aren't the intended topics here and typically can lead to things getting very ugly very quickly. Take that however you want.

1702 days, 8 hours, 53 minutes ago

mule

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rhunter: Everything you just said makes me chuckle all the harder. Simply amazing!

You infer "I" think the feed should be moderated, when all I said was if YOU think we should not discuss politics here then YOU should take it to Joshua. Should I re-post where YOU said that? I just love how you turned that around. HAHAHA.

As far as my opinions... they are just that. Opinions that may or may not be facts. Did I say, the FACT is..." I don't think so. Once again you fail to put words in my mouth.

And you say my opinions are Talking Points of a political party. When did I lose the power of observation and opinion just because you say someone else agrees with me?

Your opinion, on the other hand, is that of a Die-Hard Independent and not influenced by anyone else at all. Did I get that right? More chuckles...

I tried to be fair and suggest we are both capable of forming our own opinions, but I guess you are the only one capable of that.

1702 days, 8 hours, 41 minutes ago

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As an Ex - Dem and independent and having been in D.C. for 19 years and being very involved with my industries government relations and after reading most of this thread all I wish to say is a big...... CHUCKLE... :-)
Merry Christmas to all of you.

1702 days, 3 hours, 28 minutes ago

broseph

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Lol. I love the condescending 'I smart than u' dick wagging almost as much as the 'tough guy black belt' dick wagging.

Lemme try. I have a Mensa level IQ and a doctorate. BAM! I overturned a traffic law, all but making it unenforceable across an entire state, in my first unsupervised trial. In traffic court. Police were actually yelling from the gallery and confronting me outside the court. Ha! I finished writing my first novel last month (more proud of this than anything I think). :-)

I'm just funnin'. Politics stuff makes me chuckle too. God stuff as well. And tough guy stuff. Basically lots of stuff makes me laugh. I think a lot of people get their blood up though, I have to remember that not everyone is giggling when they respond here.

Recent, prolonged and still lingering near fatal illness and complete and utter destruction of my 'normal' life, as well as dealing with people in legal crisis, has sort of made me a bit...strange.

Oh, and happy B-Day Jesus. --here comes the God talk--

1702 days, 2 hours, 56 minutes ago

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to build on one of NERF's earlier comments, it is also true that in any city you examine, the more churches it has, the more crime it will have. a fool could use that very real fact to deduce that churches = more criminals (priests and little boys notwithstanding) when in actuality both are simply a byproduct of higher population density. <3

1702 days, 2 hours, 22 minutes ago

mule

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I went looking for comments and couldn't find NURF. Maybe that's an inside reference? Anyway, good point on causality. However, I would think there would be a pretty strong causal relationship between poverty and street crime or drug laws and prison populations. At least I think Ockham’s razor would point in that general direction.

Unless we are talking about Wall Street, of course. Or most white collar crime for that matter. Then we might need to look for other causes. Simple greed perhaps? Maybe stock holders should carry guns! :)

1702 days, 2 hours, 11 minutes ago

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I feel it might be a marginally slighting reference to my name, Mule. Someone might possibly enjoy yanking my chain a bit.

It's an excellent point she made, mind. I quoted it a bit ago to a deal of laughter.

1702 days, 2 hours, 11 minutes ago

broseph

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The correlation is between churches and poverty. The more impoverished an areas the more religious it ends up being. Causality is hard to show, as always. It is thought that the belief in a better afterlife, some sort of just reward for all the hardship you are facing, leads to more religion in poor areas. And poor areas have more crime...again hard to point to causality but the association is so strong it's hard not to think there's a causal relationship. So churches/crime have the same root cause, or at least there's a strong likelyhood.

Fun fact, the poverty status isn't absolute, but fluid. It just has to be poor compared to the surrounding society for the corresponding crime/religion levels to rise. Another fun fact, the poorest nations on the planet are the most religious. Some try say religion is causal, but the US is one of the richest nations and is far more religious than the next 20 or so richest. Could it be the income gap driving up pockets of religion in the US and skewing the overall numbers? I dunno.

Not saying I KNOW or BELIEVE any of this, just regurgitating what I've heard and calling it interesting.

1702 days, 1 hours, 46 minutes ago

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I believe "NERF" may be referring to me. For what it's worth, neither the "G" nor the "k" is supposed to be silent. On the other hand, I've been called an "old softie" before... Anyway - I think Mechno may just enjoy jerking my chain a bit. :o)

It's an excellent point, a rhetorical device about interpreting statistics. I just quoted it a bit ago to a roomful of out-laws and got a laugh.

1701 days, 22 hours, 52 minutes ago

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i am sick of needing to double check it EVERY time i write your name, you are now Mr. Nerf.

1701 days, 15 hours, 29 minutes ago

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Smile when you say that, pilgrim.

1701 days, 12 hours, 56 minutes ago

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i am, actually... and whenever i have said your name in my head, as long as i have known it, this was always how it sounded anyway, its Nerf or nuthin!

1701 days, 12 hours, 53 minutes ago

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Well, YOU can call me John.

1701 days, 12 hours, 47 minutes ago

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i understood the Duke reference sir, not much is lost on me.

1701 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes ago

mule

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In a related news story, the Vice Dept reports a roundup of Johns...

1701 days, 12 hours, 35 minutes ago

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This morning, I was curious to see how the game was progressing WRT getting people to sign up. I clicked on the link near the top of the thread and got a blank screen. As the server is having problems, I checked some other games, and they worked fine.

It appears that Larry has deleted the game.

Time for this thread to die.

1701 days, 12 hours, 34 minutes ago

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yet the maniacs continue to run free, causing all forms of havok and melee

1701 days, 12 hours, 0 minutes ago

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> the maniacs continue to run free, causing all forms of havok and melee

Of course. That's what maniacs are for, as you should know ;)

1701 days, 11 hours, 44 minutes ago

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There is a huge cultural difference also. I spent a lot of time in Japan in the 80's and 90's. You could walk the streets in Tokyo late at night and have no concern. No thugs, no thieves. Respect for others and honor was a big issue.

1701 days, 11 hours, 34 minutes ago

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Mjs68508: I was about to post the same thing, except compared to knife attacks.

Nipponese rape statistics are not considered truthful, cultural pressure to hide that specific crime is extremely strong in Japan/Nippon.

Even Canada allows concealed permits for handguns... every time I mention this, fellow Canadians chime in saying I'm wrong... so many clueless people against guns arguing invalid correlation-causation arguments.

Nipponese police routinely force confessions, NGOs complain about this often, so I wouldn't admire their system if you prefer liberty to tyranny.

1701 days, 11 hours, 24 minutes ago

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Vague echoes of two guys called Preach and Cochise, but I don't remember the movie.

Yes, that's my thought: that it's the society that's sick, and that firearms ownership is more or less incidental. Not that pre-war Japan wasn't sick, mind, or that modern Japan doesn't show some mild echoes of the same sickness. I'd point at the ills of other cultures but I don't know them nearly well enough.

The core, I think, is the conviction held by some that capitalism is a good thing rather than an ideal system inhabited by flawed humans, much as many another system has been, and that democracy's virtues outweigh its dangers.

1701 days, 11 hours, 22 minutes ago

mule

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GLYN, I guess I'm lucky I left Canada before it became such a police state. I seem to remember the RCMP being unfailingly polite. Even when they came to explain I had overstayed my visit. I'm sure they would have beaten me with rubber hoses if they had known I was unarmed.

1701 days, 10 hours, 52 minutes ago

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Another thing to consider in the U.S. is race.

Whites: 9 per 100,000 (and 5 out of 6 of those are suicide) --> 1/6 out of 9 = 1.5 per 100,000 murdered. This is not so bad compared to Japan and Britain.

Blacks: 13 per 100,000 (and 1 out of 6 of those are suicide) --> 5/6 out of 13 = 10.8 per 100,000 murdered. Lesson: Stay out of black areas (slums, etc.).

As long as you are not a black man who lives in the 'hood and you don't kill yourself, we are very safe in the U.S. I and other members of my family have spent decades delivering newspapers at 3 a.m. with no qualms of danger.

1701 days, 10 hours, 49 minutes ago

mule

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YIKES! I didn't mean 3 identical posts. ERROR, ERROR!

1701 days, 10 hours, 39 minutes ago

mule

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Gad! I miss an edit option to fix typos. :(

1701 days, 10 hours, 29 minutes ago

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> the base problem

Why must there be ONE "base problem"? There are often multiple contributing factors. Fixing one of them usually only has a small effect on the problem being addressed.

1701 days, 10 hours, 22 minutes ago

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As far as MJS's race comments...
Which is the causal factor? Race or POVERTY?

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I would go with C. Destruction of the black family and no fathers. (resulting in gangs as substitute families).

Instead of "Hands Up! Don't shoot!"

A more constructive cry would be "Pants up! Don't loot!"

Pants up: Make government assistance dependent on living in heavily supervised group homes to guide, train, single mothers and make single motherhood unattractive to break the cycle of fatherlessness.

Don't loot: Demand that a cop be placed on every street corner in high crime areas with a community leader with each one and all violators be sent to heavily guarded work camps for training and a second chance to break the backs of gangs and break the cycle of crime.

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The sin of America is not a violent society. It is the destruction of the black family. Blacks suffer so we whites can feel warm fuzzies for supporting their failures and making excuses for bad behavior.

1701 days, 10 hours, 21 minutes ago

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Mjs68508: "Another thing to consider in the U.S. is race."

That... that is a good way to get liberals angry and all up in your face. They prefer to deny reality and thus make incorrect assumptions about you... that same sentence on reddit.com would cause a flame war. Not that I advocate bending your will to others.

Mule: Statistically safer... no one is ever safe. I doubt Mjs68508 judges people by their race more-so than anyone else going by his post history.

Whisperer: I think everyone realizes it isn't just one thing, but it will seem so when discussing because everyone picks specific angles of attack that they think deserve the most attention.

1701 days, 10 hours, 0 minutes ago

RE: New game THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy...

Mule: I told one story of just one interaction with RCMP I've had... I'm not sure where you get off making an assumption that I think/stated that Canada is a police state. I've more stories though... police refused to press charges against a muscular crack-head that chased me and threw rocks at me after telling him to get off my property. Riding my bike an officer jumped in front of me and tried to prevent me from entering the city park because it was 4/20 that day, I laughed manically as he chased after me... I was just going home. I was busted with a little marihuana in 2003, went to trial... cops failed to show up to court so prosecutor made a deal rather than delay trial... then the judge doubled the community service. After meeting my parole officer, he called the judge and RCMP idiots and told me hes neck deep in meth-heads and that I didn't have to do the community service and charges were conditional and aren't in any databases anymore. I had to avoid crossing any borders for 10 years though, as the second you go to the border they get access to all crime records and unlike others, border system never expunges records.

Never come to Canada if you have an un-expunged alcohol related conviction, you'll be permanently forbidden to enter Canada.

That said, don't make assumptions about me... not your average netizen.

1701 days, 9 hours, 55 minutes ago

RE: New game THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy...

Whisperer: "It appears that Larry has deleted the game.

Time for this thread to die."

I'll try to contain my surprise... and will now bow out of this thread, assuming no one has a pointless rebuttal to an imagined point I've made.

1701 days, 7 hours, 59 minutes ago

mule

RE: New game THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy...

Glyn: If you really want the thread to die, I would suggest you not make statements like, "that is a good way to get liberals angry and all up in your face. They prefer to deny reality and thus make incorrect assumptions about you..." and then expect us to allow it to stand. Get serious!

How long would YOU stay silent if I said, "Conservatives are (insert some insulting and incorrect generalizations)"

Because I agree this thread HAS gone on too long, I'll let it go - this time. I hope you can still contain your surprise. :)

1701 days, 5 hours, 58 minutes ago

RE: New game THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy...

But I was enjoying this thread! Notice it has nothing to do with the original topic -- that's the mark of a good conversation.

1701 days, 5 hours, 30 minutes ago

rkious

RE: New game THE GREAT BIG WAR Hosted by The Larry McCarthy...

GNERPHK .... To get back to the thread.It seems poor Larry Deleted "The Great Big War". I have to say reading this off topic "conversation" turn out to be some good holiday entertainment.