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| (sorry for spämming, this is the first rant i posted to con-thread. will share it here because here are also other people who have not subscribed to the con-thread)
BY GIENAH, GIVE NINJABUNNY HIS/HERS STAR GATE BUT DONT TAKE AWAY MY PBPs, or "THE FIRST RANT"
TL;DR:
if the sole purpose of this change is to ”make games more fun”, there is possibility it fails hard, because those who win now, will keep winning. those who lose keep losing AND they keep feeling bad, like wasting a year of their lives does. it does not make it fun in the end. so, maybe this is addressing the right problem wrong way? by reducing the mineral levels risk of MBC was already addressed. make games shorter, using intuitive scoring systems or smaller maps etc what ever!
and heres the long version:
interestingly EVERYONE is under the spell now. is that what they call groupthink? well i am dissident, and even Bruce Schneier said we are important, so i can openly admit for me this being mostly a bummer.
- as Joshua mentioned when he was talking about new players and retention, the main reason why people leave is bad experience. i honestly believe this is caused by losing (10-9 out of 11 will lose, like pointed out in the speech) a game that takes tooooooo f****** long. what causes the losing would be less important if there was in fact more chances to win. playing more shorter games would at least put chance to win up. increase the number of opportunities to learn.
- CUEcontrol was very transparent feature and thus easy game mechanic to blame for. if this new one is less apparent, there might indeed be less ranting.
- this change won’t change the fact winners keep winning games that take too long, and all the rest keep losing games that take too long, and most importantly they will keep feeling bad. experiences still remain the same: when you lose a game that took a year and half to finish while causing a lot of domestic violence at home, people keep feeling like shit.
- drastically reducing minerals already addressed the problem of building star bases ahead of the IDQ in the beginning of a game while it also addressed the problem, or risk, of MBC a lot. because the games take soooo long, the repercussions of this change have not even been recorded yet! admittedly, these two things might still be problems in end game — but i have not witnessed it my self (again because games are so frikkin’ long). and if games where short problems occurring only in the end would — well — occur less frequently because games would mostly be over by then, right?
- i fear weaker races are getting weaker;
1. strike races who might find it hard over all killing star bases contra carrier races who might find it easy to crush enemies’ star bases
2. penalize Coldpains, encourage Death Stars? really?
- i can’t believe changing the core element (like worded by Joshua him self) happens already after 4 years he’s been in charge. you see, it was unclear in the speech. the game is over twenty years old, Joshua been in charge four years and said something about thinking of changing this mechanic already, what, three years ago? In Planets scale thats overnight (maybe i missheard that?).
- if i did mishear it, and this is alllllll only because of Emork and waves he caused, well then we are targeting a fly with an ICBM.
- at least
1. run serious beta und alpha tests before making this standard.
2. for private games keep option to enable old PBP, like a switch.
- and no, i don’t think this new system is bad per se! I DO NOT. while the introduction was superficial, it sounded great idea and could work like a [insert here a word of your own, something that you personally think works very well]!!!!
- why i don’t take this so well? i just finished my self something i had been thinking for along time, and then used around year or even more, to write it down, and now in planets scale it becomes obsolete ”over night” like said. i already wrote in magazine i was toying with an idea of guide how to use D7. the moment i put it out, a year from now, maybe two, the following planetscon will have D7 removed from the Fascists inventory. it will be something like this: ”Yea, you guys know i have been thinking this over the last four years, D7 is not fun to play with. People are writing me emails and asking why Virgo has 10 fighter bays and mass of around 700 its when D7 has only 2 torpedo tubes and mass of 175 kts…so i decided i will remove it from the shiplist. hope the retention rate keeps steady or even goes up, and those who now lose will win more often.” this is the reason why this is so hard to swallow. but the whiskey i started swallowing right after i was watching the stream and realized what Joshua was saying, that is actually really smooth!
- yea i know! excommunicate me.
- one question, what is the max ship limit if 500 is soft? if that was said in the video, i missed it. any calculations/estimations how many ships there actually can be, if there is no "hard ship limit”, or is it still 999? oh, it has to be, right. because of friendly codes? or are they changing that too? |
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