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1800 days, 1 hours, 51 minutes ago

anaconda (The Fascists)

ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we are now two days away from the next host. hence I propose we all agree to skip it (next Wednesday, that is) and we all prepare our turns for next Saturday-Sunday night (regular host after the next regular host)?

I know already if we do not agree on skipping the Wednesday host, we will delay it once more, and the vicious circle continues.

let me know!

1800 days, 1 hours, 23 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

Turn submitted, would like to keep to a regular schedule. Speaking of which, DH3? Can we continue or end it?

1800 days, 1 hours, 14 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

i do not host it.

and, there doesnt seem to be an easy way to end it either. host for example can not appoint winners by hand, and with no voting system in place the winner(s) need(s) the planets stated under victory conditions :(

1800 days, 1 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

I know. . . I suggest we set a turn limit on future DH games so this doesn't happen. 75 turns is more than enough to shit or get off the pot. Dragging on indefinitely with month long breaks kind of sucks. We have all proved that we will stick it out but sticking it out with more breaks than playing past turn 100 is not fun.

1799 days, 12 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

anyway the original point got lost in translation here. do we agree to skip the host or, wanna push for it?

1799 days, 11 hours, 27 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

I'm ready to go and would like the host to run at the next 24 hour interval until or unless someone objects or unless it is clear that someone that is usually reliable is going to miss a turn. So far it is just us talking here. . .

1797 days, 9 hours, 21 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

putting this on pause

1794 days, 4 hours, 46 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

Maybe we can go to officially 1 turn a week.

1794 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

Im in 2 DH games, both ate in pauses. . . I think we need a turn limit end to avoid this. Many of us have lives and wives and only play so many games at once. Right now I'm in 2 games but neither is running. Do I join more games so I can play planets? What happens if I join 2 new games and then these two revive and I have more on my plate than I can handle? Its OK if people lose interest after a long prolonged battle (DH3) but not OK for months to go by with nothing going on. I fear that this may happen to DH9 as well. One turn a week, no excuses, would force the game to actually play. My expereince is that pauses breed more pauses and with 11 people with real actual lives, someone is going to want a pause at any given time especially if they see everyone else getting pauses. If we dont want to continue, that is fine to but we really need to make a descision (1 a wekk is good) and not sit around more than we play in this and all DH games.

1794 days, 0 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

these are good points. Jodan seems to have dropped off the radar which is bad but we go and have gone once a week here in DH9, and keep doing it. next host during regular hour wed-thu, prepare your turns.

1793 days, 19 hours, 51 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

btw, Valhalla. studying the public data it seems no1 is able to stop EE and he will win the game a little bit. so go ahead and start a new one. this will be over before you are in turn 25-35 in your new game.

1793 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

Aye the EE are doing quite well. I have no intention of stopping them, you and the bots are more than enough to deal with! Anyway, I won't allow myself to start a 3rd game until a spot clears as I am happily married and want to stay that way! :-P DH3 delays have been 7+ weeks now, I posted there as well. We need to play or end, not have multi month delays. It seems like most want to play. I don't care as I'll play if we end by joining something new and play if we continue by continuing. Anything is better than sitting around for weeks then months. . .

I do think we should consider a version 2.0 of the Die Hard model. Everything as it is with the following additions:

*Each player can ask for one and only break up to 2 weeks long per game. After that, out of respect for the other players, the game will continue. Ideally no one asks for a break but as we know life happens.

*All games end at turn 100 and are scored by # of planets owned irregardless of allies unless a 2/3 majority wants to continue. Dead races count as a vote to end. This puts pressure on players to attack instead of sit around. The other victory conditions remain in effect and can occur before turn 100.

1792 days, 0 hours, 15 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

fixed turn / max planets changes the game 'n diplomacy dynamics a lot. tremendously, actually. its a good version however, i personally enjoy playing those but i don't classic DH format changing into that direction nonetheless.

1791 days, 12 hours, 35 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

What the DH version gives us is a heck of a lot less quitters. My none DH games here on Nu have been influenced by who quits more than anything else. That is a lot less true in DH although DH9 has been an exception I suspect things are a little better now in regular Nu games now that there is a system to help deal with the game hopping (win or switch) strategy that used to be rampant.

I personally like the Nu interface best but the old ladder system and scoring better which had no restrictions on allies BUT in a 5 player alliance, there was still only one first place and how you finished was how YOU finished, not how your alliance finished.

I know, I know, lots of different opinions on these things. :-)

1788 days, 1 hours, 59 minutes ago

RE: ok, because of these delays caused by time constraints we...

Jodan is about to get dropped out of 5 games, 4 of them Die Hard.