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809 days, 19 hours, 45 minutes ago

OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL
THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG
PLEASE ADMIN DO SOMETHING

from: TANTRUM LINER ID#202
Our ship is caught in Ion Storm ID#7 We have been pulled 27 LY off course.
Damage Taken: 0
Crew Killed : 0
Shields are down.

REALLY ??? REALLY???

COME ON???

a ship completely out of fuel showing warp different from zero

the tantrum in the storm not recharging....WHAT IS GOIN ON?

ADMIN CAN YOU DO SOMETHING PLEASE
YOU DO NOT RESPOND TO THE MESSAGES DIRECTELY TO YOU
CAN YOU SEE THIS IN THE GENERAL MESSAGES?

809 days, 19 hours, 43 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

how can a ship with not fuel display a warp different from zero?

809 days, 19 hours, 18 minutes ago

somujot

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

I ship doesn't need fuel to move.
If the move takes 0kT it will move even without fuel.
The Fuel Carrier can move at W9 a lot.

The tantrum liner is also drag by ion storms.
The only thing different is that it does take damage.
To recharge, it probably needs fuel.

809 days, 18 hours, 56 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudakan,

There are a few things going on here.

1. The ship is showing a warp speed of non-0 when out of fuel. This is acceptable. The speed is reset when the ship moves using it's own power.

2. The TANTRUM device isn't charging. This is because the Tantrum liner has no fuel. Please see http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/out-of-fuel

3. The Tantrum liner is being dragged by the Ion Storm. This is normal. It's also not being damaged, which, again, is normal.

Is there something else that you believe is broken here?

809 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes ago

mabeco

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudakan, don't worry, with practice, knowing all this and more will become second nature.
Reading documentation also helps...

809 days, 13 hours, 38 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudakan: Rather than indicate that a feature requires fuel on http://help.planets.nu/tantrum-device, like anyone with two brain cells would do... you instead have to check http://help.planets.nu/out-of-fuel and read the entire thing and then if it isn't present, assume it requires fuel. This has backfired many times already as things that don't require fuel were more numerous than assumed, and of course is a totally retarded way to document a game.

809 days, 13 hours, 21 minutes ago

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@WHISPERER

1- what is acceptable? I do not follow sorry. Turn 30 a SSD hit a mine and get out of fuel. Turn 31 the SSD moves 1 yl (what I know movement out of fuel is normal) but the speed is not reseted to 0. What is really confusing. Then I go to documentation (as suggested by @BABIECA and I found this:

"The fuel is consumed through the normal operation of the starship. This includes movement, use of the Cloak mission and use of the Chameleon mission. When this happens, the starship's mission is immediately reset to Exploration, unless it's set to Beam up Fuel. In addition, the starship's speed is reset to Warp 0 and the waypoint is set to the starship's current location."

Later in the same page it said;
"A fuelless starship can usually move. The speed will have to be set each time this is done, as it resets to 0 after movement."

So now my friend susurro can you tell is there is something broken or not here?

2-I am sorry my frien susurro...but are you the admin? did you receive my message. There you can see several liners inside the storm with good amount of fuel that are not being recharged. One more time as @babieca suggested I read the documentation and I found this:

"The TANTRUM device discharge occurs after regular starship movement, but before Intercept. In the event that the vessel is still within an ion storm at that point, the TANTRUM device recharges after it discharges."

If you are admin, why you do not enter in the game in the turns that I indicate AND YOU TELL ME IF THERE IS SOMETHING BROKEN HERE?

3-Yes right the documentation say so

809 days, 9 hours, 50 minutes ago

indigo ferrinor

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

Hi @sudakan

First, I think it would be much easier for everyone to follow your words if you weren't that excited and didn't "shout" all the time by using caps lock. At least I tend to ignore people if they write that way.
Means: If you like answers be kind to the people you ask.

Second, Your initial post decribes a single problem which @Whisperer has completely explained to you: short summary:
1. Warp speed of 0-fuel ships only resets if ship has moved.
2. Liner is not charging because of the lack of fuel.
3. Being dragged through ion storm is absolutely normal even for a liner.

Third, If you're expierencing more things within your game you can't explain, I suggest you give us facts not assumptions. And ask questions without yelling. I'm sure 99% of those things you can't explain, can be explained by someone in the .nu-community because it has appeared before.

btw:
If this is the way you wrote when contacting the admins, I'm pretty sure why they take their time before they answer. ;-)

809 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Indigo+Ferrinor: I usually avoid pointing out when you are wrong since you spaz out... but Sudakan said "There you can see several liners inside the storm with good amount of fuel" regarding point 2.

809 days, 9 hours, 27 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudakan: Only Joshua and Big Beefer are the ones that can help you with your problem if it is truly a bug at work causing your fueled Tantrum Liners to not charge. Which is who was messaged when you used the CONTACT form; http://play.planets.nu/#/contact

809 days, 9 hours, 26 minutes ago

indigo ferrinor

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Glyn, you can always tell me when you think I am wrong. I don't pretend knowing everything right. And I really like to learn new stuff or correct my current knowledge.

But I referred to his "initial post" to which Whisperer replied. Sudakan came up with that sentence later on and it isn't that much of a new fact because we have no other information. But yes, this could be a bug in that game. That's why I suggested that he should deliver more facts and not only his assumptions. If I am missing some information he gave us, just give me a hint where to find them.

809 days, 9 hours, 10 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Indigo+Ferrinor: "IF: Whisperer has completely explained ... Liner is not charging because of the lack of fuel."

That is the 'wrong' part... 'completely explained' implies ALL correct answers were provided and the 'mystery' solved. We actually do have instances where things were completely explained and the player just doesn't understand, but at this moment we'd be wrong to jump to that conclusion. And it doesn't matter if more information is provided later that makes an explanation no longer valid, it wasn't 'completely explained' EVER until we are 100% sure. This might be a language issue, I would assume you meant 'has addressed all your questions'.

"you can always tell me when you think I am wrong"

I was just mocking your "If you like answers be kind to the people you ask" comment. Someone could be strangling me with a garden hose and I'd still tell them how to avoid being Towed.

809 days, 9 hours, 0 minutes ago

indigo ferrinor

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Glyn, no this isn't an issue of language. I meant what I said. And you know I won't troll this thread along with you with your silly "Korinthenkackerei" as we say in german.
Let's stick to the content, please.

@Sudakan, sorry for these off topic posts.

809 days, 8 hours, 53 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Indigo+Ferrinor: You came in dismissing Sudakan and claiming he had his questions completely explained. According to him, they are not.

You literally lectured Sudakan about how he should behave... you don't deserve to be treated with respect once you do that... what comes around goes around.

809 days, 8 hours, 43 minutes ago

indigo ferrinor

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Glyn, yes, Master. You are right, Master.

809 days, 8 hours, 40 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Indigo+Ferrinor: Aaaannnnnd you're spazzing out as predicted.

809 days, 3 hours, 39 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudakan,

> you can see several liners inside the storm with good amount of fuel that are not being recharged

Sorry. You were discussing out of fuel and Tantrum both in the same thread; I thought they were related.

If you have a Tantrum liner with fuel, and it's inside an ion storm, it "should" be accumulating a charge. The charge shows as "Tantrum Charge", just under the crew information. If this isn't happening, please use the CONTACT button at the bottom of the page to inform the Admins. In addition, please take note of the sector, player (important in Melee games if you're killed or replaced) and turn so that, if you get no response, we can look at it after the game ends to try to determine the causes of what you're seeing.

It's sometimes difficult to resolve problems in the Forum while a game is running. By the time you provide enough information to get complete answers, your opponent will know everything that's happening, and will be ready to counter you.

As for your questions on the documentation, please feel free to PM me with whatever questions you may have, and I'll get an answer back to you.

809 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

It should be noted, the Tantrum wont charge if the storm you're in is weaker than your current charge.

Need to find a nasty storm.

809 days, 2 hours, 27 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudukan

So has your initial questions been answered?

Tantrums are not damaged by ion storms but can be dragged.
It will not charge in a storm that is lower voltage.

And why is the warp not resetting to zero a great problem? There are some possibilities for a ship not to reset to 0. Was the ship totally out of fuel and only moving warp 1? Was it being dragged by an ion storm and had warp 1 but was not moving and out of fuel?

Is it worth Admin checking the warp 1 thing?

809 days, 1 hours, 54 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudakan,

In your investigation of this problem, you might want to have a look at sector 186830 (http://planets.nu/#/sector/186830), Mabeco's ship 396, starting at turn 86.

808 days, 21 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Sudakan: Did Issen Adtur successfully solve the mystery?

808 days, 19 hours, 34 minutes ago

qinic

RE: OK THIS IS NOT FUN AT ALL THIS GAME IS FULL OF BUG PLEASE...

@Glyn I don't believe so. @Issen+Adtur makes a good point but I believe he used the Tantrum device inside the Ion Storm, so the charge should be 0 which should be less than the charge of the category 3 storm he was inside of, ship had fuel and the Tantrum liner was inside the storm at start and end of the turn as far as I recall. So this to me looks like either the documentation is not (or no longer) accurate or there is a bug.
I think the other two points e.g. the Tantrum liner being dragged and the warp 1 not resetting for an out of fuel ship have been addressed.
(I am the Chrystal ally in that game btw)
The out of fuel ship must have warp 1 set but had no way-point hence no movement and therefore not reset, that is what is happening here I think.