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159 days, 3 hours, 41 minutes ago

retrobug

This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to warpwell instead onto the planet (using the automated fuel saving approach). This really should be fixed.

159 days, 3 hours, 22 minutes ago

rexe

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

The probe lands on the warpwell if you choose one that is 3ly from the planet.

If you use one that is not a point on the star (the 5x5 box -- not the points), then your jump will be at the planet.

It's in the Hyperjump page:
https://help.planets.nu/mis-hyperjump

159 days, 3 hours, 22 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

But if you cancel it when you want to Hyp that fixes it doesn't it?

And Admin tend to put player fixable things to the bottom of their fix list.

You can either do that or keep repeating posting to this thread until Admin fix it.

They may fix it for your next host. Or may not look at it for months.

And they probably won't announce any fixes so you won't know until it stops doing it.

So maybe set up a test game and Hyp back and forwards just before you hit end turn to confirm if it is fixed.

If its not fixed then cancel the auto fuel save if you are hyping.

I know its annoying but you know how to fix it if you are doing a lot of hyping.

Bugs get fixed but the time frame is never in your favour.

159 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes ago

rexe

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

It's not a bug it's a feature. The Rebels have hide in warpwells advantage available in campaign and can HYP to those points in the warpwell undetected.

It doesn't save fuel to use the warpwell when HYPing -- it's always 50.

159 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes ago

retrobug

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

@Rexe... it's a bug with the new fuel saving feature.
@Martinr... are you really so frustrated?
Thanks anyways for answering anyways.

I'll have to wait until Joshua or Big beefer will play a race with a HYPerjumper and experience it first hand how annoying this (minor) issue is.

159 days, 2 hours, 31 minutes ago

retrobug

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Or even better, i'll follow MartinRs suggestion and just go into @Sudakan mode, keeping this thread on top of the activit feed by repeating myself for two weeks.

... or i just try to make @whisperer respond, then @glyn will also answer and i can lean back.

159 days, 2 hours, 6 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

@Retrobug: The Planets How-To-Play- Manual agrees with Rexe's link (word for word and image for image, no less).

http://play.planets.nu/#/howtoplay/mis-hyperjump

159 days, 1 hours, 57 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Its a legal and wanted feature. Hyping ships can land in the far corners. If they want to.

Then you have the Fuel saving option going for the shortest distance to get to the planet so it will put the destination in the far corner.

But in this case the hyping option stops in the outer spot and stops.

Two features trying to assist the player and when hyping does not help as it saves no fuel and takes an extra turn to get to the planet.

Unless the hyping ship chooses to want to land on that spot?

Which feature wins?

Obviously cancelling it for Hyping ship that's what Retrobug wants but it may not be as easy as it seems.

Admin may let us know.

159 days, 1 hours, 47 minutes ago

retrobug

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Rexe and Jonnydoh,
you do not understand. As MartinR stated, there is aconflict with the intention of the fuel saving (and overall good additional) feature called:
"Use Warp Wells Automatically"
By this feature (if activated) your ships will only move to the closest postion in warpwell, making it being dragged onto the planet.
Why you and Rexe point out with your "warpwell" link is something different.
And it is difficult to describe if you haven't yet used the "Use Warp Wells Automatically" feature and don't know about its intention.
The intention is to reach a planet with normal waypoints, but save the extra 1-2 kt fuel. But if this feature is activated, for HYPing ships, the ship will now always land in the warpwell (when you point to a planet).
Try it out and you will understand what i mean.

159 days, 0 hours, 2 minutes ago

mcnimble

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

When you jump approx. 350 LY and you *snap a waypoint towards a planet*... You should end up at the planet!

Try my ObjectSelection plugin.
https://chmeee.org/#planets.nu/ObjectSelection
(Only if you have a keyboard, or setting a waypoint will be impossible)

The old desktop version featured Alt-Click, which does not snap. That's for going to that particular square LY. My plugin does the same. and of course Shift-click for second, third, etc waypoint.

158 days, 23 hours, 50 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Maybe because I use McNimble's plugins, but I've never had that problem, Retrobug. So I defer to your knowledge of the problem-- but perhaps I could recommend McNimble's plugins as a solution?

In any case, I apologize for not understanding the root of your problem.

158 days, 8 hours, 27 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Can you send more details about the sequence of things you are doing to the contact link? A fix went in for this months ago and I cannot currently reproduce the problem.

158 days, 4 hours, 54 minutes ago

mursu

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

If you have FC 'HYP' and warp speed >0 and click on the destination planet, you won't accidentally end up in the warp well.

However, as warp speed is reset to 0 after hyperjumping, it is very common to first click destination and only after that adjust the warp speed. I know this, but still do the mistake now and then. It isn't easy to learn doing things on different order. This is something that maybe could be adjusted?

The same also happens if you first adjust warp speed and then click destination, but change FC to 'HYP' only afterwards. This likely has to remain as it is because hyperjumpers are not always hyperjumping and might want to use the warp wells to save fuel in normal movement.

158 days, 1 hours, 28 minutes ago

retrobug

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Big Beefer, please check in my only current running game.

s#103 in warpwell in T88.
reproducable: go back in time machine to T87.
Deselect waypoint, press Hyperjump button, select center of p#48.
This results in a waypoint to the 2LY southernmost warpwell and the probe (once again) ending up in the warpwell.
Settings: play.planets.nu and use warp wells automatically

Mursu: of course once i realize the ending waypoint is in the warpwell i can correct it with a second click, but many times i forgot to do so and just clicked on the planets once. it is a minor problem, but still annoying.

158 days, 1 hours, 8 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

@Retrobug Play.planet.nu is the problem.

@BB said the old interface will not be supported anymore. So bug fixes are unlikely to be done for the old interface.

158 days, 1 hours, 1 minutes ago

retrobug

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

i would guess most of the "old vgaplanets folks" still use the play.planets.nu

is there a statistics on usage of the two interfaces btw?

158 days, 0 hours, 57 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

I use the new interface *almost* exclusively.

My only gripe-
I cant copy/paste- I have to go to the old interface to do that.

158 days, 0 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Statistics do not really matter. They have stated the site has to move towards the future.

Obviously the site probably is full of people who don't use mobiles and game consoles and the majority still use PC's.

As we are all 45'+ and have been playing PC games and cannot get used to consoles never mind these games you play on phones.

And the ones that use the new UI probably play them on PC's anyway.

But in a few years when we lose half our numbers due to everyone being dead they have to supply to the people who are still alive.

And why you have to punish your main players to feed a future player on a phone that most of them play games that for a few minutes a day and pay for tokens to buy stuff. Totally opposite to VGAP.

But then they need the money to keep the site going.

158 days, 0 hours, 17 minutes ago

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

Statistics do not really matter. They have stated the site has to move towards the future.

Obviously the site probably is full of people who don't use mobiles and game consoles and the majority still use PC's.

As we are all 45'+ and have been playing PC games and cannot get used to consoles never mind these games you play on phones.

And the ones that use the new UI probably play them on PC's anyway.

But in a few years when we lose half our numbers due to everyone being dead they have to supply to the people who are still alive.

And why you have to punish your main players to feed a future player on a phone that most of them play games that for a few minutes a day and pay for tokens to buy stuff. Totally opposite to VGAP.

But then they need the money to keep the site going.

157 days, 22 hours, 51 minutes ago

gornmeister

RE: This is now the fith time that my Probe is jumping into to...

This is easily remedied if you want to take an extra few seconds.

Once you've set the HYP destination, simply zoom in on the destination planet, and click on the actual planet.

The HYP destination will adjust, and you will end up at the planet and not in the warp well.

I always give my HYP ships a note that says "check warp well" to remind myself to do this.