What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

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460 days, 9 hours, 4 minutes ago

bediju

What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

What circumstances and considerations would induce aka (also known as) incite a Lizard player to buy a lot more Madonnzila Class Carriers than T-Res class Battleships?

Sincerely bediju

460 days, 8 hours, 41 minutes ago

tiamat

RE: What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

I never build them because they are not that powerful as fighter carriers go but depending on your enemy and partners there could be some reasons to do it but not that many.

460 days, 8 hours, 18 minutes ago

RE: What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

In campaign game if you had RWSC or SSG but if you had both I could see it. The issue is cost lot of MC to but 120 fighters on every ship vs what you need for a T-Rex.

460 days, 7 hours, 55 minutes ago

RE: What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

Well for Example a fed partner can use them with 3 extra bays, or a rebel/Robot friend can support the needed fighters, this would be good circumstances to build more Madonzilla's...

457 days, 12 hours, 52 minutes ago

bediju

RE: What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

Thank you all for your answers :)

I conclude, that you like me, generally speaking prefer the T-Rex class Battleship :)

Sincerely bediju

457 days, 12 hours, 26 minutes ago

hiko

RE: What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

Against big carriers a madonzilla can save one ship. E.g. when you would need Trex, Trex, Trex to win a fight, a Trex, Madonzilla combo could to the job, too.
I usually build some (about 5-10% of the number of Trexes), but mostly on new bases where the tech levels are not good enough for a Trex. You don't need torps or good beams on a Madonzilla, it will use them to shoot enemy fighters, anyway.

457 days, 9 hours, 8 minutes ago

emork the lizard king

RE: What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

To elaborate on what Hiko said: For a Lizard in a standard game and on it's own the most PP-efficient way to deal with heavy carriers is the combo Rex-Madon-Madon. If Rex and the first Madon are destroyed you've lost 18 PP. But sometimes even the first Madon wins and then you lost just 10 PP.
If you go for Rex-Rex-Rex then you _always_ lose two Rex - that's 20 PP.

Note that this calculation is for battles against _single_ enemy carriers. If you have to fight stacks of them then things become worse. This is why the Lizard tries to isolate enemy carriers by towing them out of their stack with a cloaker.

457 days, 7 hours, 2 minutes ago

bediju

RE: What circumstances and considerations would induce aka...

Thank you both for elaborating on the topic and for your most helpful answers :)

So while I still conclude, that you like me, generally speaking prefer the T-Rex class Battleship, then I now will try to build some 5 - 10% of the number of T-rexes as Madonzillas;

and I understand, that ideally those Madonzillas should be build on (newer)less developed Starbase Shipyards (Wharfs) :)

And I now also appreciate, that for battles against _single_ enemy carriers

the combo Rex-Madon-Madon is preferable to the simplistic Trex, Trex, Trex,

especially from the PBPs Priority Build Point angle perspective.

:)

Sincerely bediju