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1235 days, 12 hours, 57 minutes ago
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obazda
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Can i intercept a moving ship with a HYP probe (the target ship has lower ID than the HYPerjumping ship)?
1235 days, 11 hours, 47 minutes ago
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jellyfishspam
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you can't HYP and intercept in the same turn if that's what you're asking. but any ship can intercept another*.

*if the ship you are trying to intercept is also on an intercept mission and has a higher id than yours, your ship will move first to intercept and then your target will move after on its own intercept mission.
1235 days, 11 hours, 3 minutes ago
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martinr
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You have to move 300LY (+/- if you can get a warp well of a planet).

So it may be possible to HYP in a general direction but you may be no where near you intended target unless they move exactly to the right stopping spot for a HYP.
1235 days, 10 hours, 44 minutes ago
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obazda
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thanks, let me give you more details.
I know that a LDS of the Mentor will arrive at either of two planets. Both are exactly in 350 LY distance. As i don't know which of the two planets will be targeted, i thought i could try to set the target to intercept and then just Fcode to HYP.
So Jellyfishspam, you say this is not possible , but Martinr is not so strict here. Guess i have to try to find it out and then repost here.
1235 days, 10 hours, 41 minutes ago
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martinr
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OK just done this in a test game and it did not work and then looked at the host order and realised why it did not work.

HYPing ships move first.

So you can put Intercept but it will move 300LY in that direction but will do no more than land where ever the HYP put you. The target ship then moves or does not move.

So you can intercept but it only may keep track of the ship for next turn.

I am not sure if it counts as a 0 speed intercept to keep track of ships that move to planets though as I was intercepting my own ship. Further work will have to confirm if it keeps intercept lock as a 0 speed intercept at a later time.
1235 days, 10 hours, 34 minutes ago
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obazda
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Ok, now that i did not know (HYP move first).
Thank you for clarifying!
1235 days, 10 hours, 28 minutes ago
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martinr
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OK I have now confirmed that putting intercept on a hying ship has a use.

It does act as a zero speed intercept.

It will tell you where the ship headed to after you HYP.

So you can HYP in the direction. Keep a lock if its in open space or tell you where it headed if it went to a planet, but you then lose the intercept option for the next turn.
1235 days, 9 hours, 58 minutes ago
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jellyfishspam
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Interesting experiment. I'll have to keep that one in mind.
1235 days, 8 hours, 25 minutes ago
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decius
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@Martinr is correct: hyperjump movement happens in the normal movement phase.

Minor correction: hyperjumps have to be between 340 ly and 360 ly (and defaults to 350 ly if you don't set a specific destination that is between 340 ly and 360 ly away), not the 300 ly @Martinr keeps mentioning. Warp wells can affect this movement a bit, but not the four corners.

Source: http://help.planets.nu/hyperjumping
1235 days, 8 hours, 17 minutes ago
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martinr
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Sorry, I forgot about the range. Its what ever the circle on the screen is :-).
1235 days, 8 hours, 10 minutes ago
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glyn
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How is that even news? : http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/movement.htm#hyp
1235 days, 8 hours, 2 minutes ago
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jellyfishspam
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The part about the 0 speed intercept appears to be news. Donovans says "Upon completing the hyperjump, the ship's warpspeed is set to zero and it's waypoint reset." If that were still true, then a HYPing ship's way point would not track a ship it is trying to intercept.
1235 days, 8 hours, 1 minutes ago
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martinr
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@Glyn we all know Donovans is out of date and is not always relevant to Planets Nu.
1235 days, 7 hours, 57 minutes ago
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glyn
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@Martinr: Not really, in fact it still contains a lot information that Documentation does not.

The only thing it is ever wrong about are bug fixes and host settings, and there is a page in Documentation explaining the differences.

And Warp0 Intercept isn't documented here but is on every other VGAP3 site.

An intelligent person doesn't handicap their themself by excluding their information sources... reminds me of people that say you learn everything you need to know from the Bible/Quran.
1235 days, 7 hours, 56 minutes ago
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gráinne
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well - though you can not really use the intercept mission, I succeeded intercepting a ship with a hyper jump :-) it was in a mentor midshipmen game - my mentor seemed to be a little bit surprised :-)
1235 days, 7 hours, 44 minutes ago
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jellyfishspam
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@glyn it isn't that warp 0 intercept is news, it's the combination with hyperjumping that seems to be surprising.
Plus, I do believe that I just pointed out something that is inconsistent with nu.
1235 days, 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
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glyn
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Intercept mission has a range at which it functions, outside that it doesn't.
1235 days, 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
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glyn
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From Donovans; "You must be within 200 ly of a ship to intercept it."
1235 days, 7 hours, 30 minutes ago
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glyn
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And yes, I submitted that information to Doc Editing and they ignored it.
1235 days, 7 hours, 30 minutes ago
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wmerkel
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Thats no longer true ...
1235 days, 7 hours, 29 minutes ago
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rhunter
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@Martinr - Contrary to claims otherwise, two turns ago in my current game I successfully executed a warp 0 intercept mission on a ship that was 463.8 LY away.
1235 days, 7 hours, 24 minutes ago
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glyn
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@Wmerkel: Which part?

@Rhunter: Warp0 Intercept is an exception/bug to the rule.
1235 days, 7 hours, 22 minutes ago
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wmerkel
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@glyn

Intercept can be made map-wide. No maximum distance ... with strange behaviours ;-)

HYP and intercept mission does not work, if used the same turn.
1235 days, 7 hours, 21 minutes ago
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rhunter
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I.e. - intercept missions can be done farther away than 200 ly. Period.
1235 days, 7 hours, 12 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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@Rhunter: " intercept missions can be done farther away than 200 ly. Period."

I don't think you understand what has been stated.
1235 days, 7 hours, 10 minutes ago
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rhunter
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I understand perfectly fine.
1235 days, 6 hours, 0 minutes ago
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glyn
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@Wmerkel: "strange behaviours"

Yep, when you cancel Share Intel (Full Alliance I assume as well), the enemy can still Intercept your ships, showing "no intercept target" but the waypoint on correct location of the ship despite being out of range.

1235 days, 0 hours, 6 minutes ago
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glyn
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@Jellyfishspam: My first comment was about; "Martinr: HYPing ships move first," not intercepting.

"Jellysfishspam: it isn't that warp 0 intercept"

I posted a factoid about Warp0 Intercept in a different thread by mistake where Martinr was also mentioning this new information... and was adding onto that it was documented everywhere but here. Intercepting at warp zero is not what is meant by Warp0 Intercept, Warp0 Intercept is "something that is inconsistent with nu.", like the NUK-trap, and should be documented so VGAP3 players are aware... for Planets Nu neither apply... but that is why we have; http://help.planets.nu/VGAP-3-differences

Which was my idea, but was shot down... and then they did it claiming it was their idea a month or so later... and then refuse to actually put the relevant information on it... like NUK-Trap etc etc... so I bring it up when I can.
1235 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes ago
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glyn
RE: Can i intercept a moving ship with a HYP probe (the target...Write Reply
I just ran a pile of tests to explore this new information brought to light and see if I could find anything else new to report:

When both Intercept mission and HYPjumping;

- If you do successfully HYPjump, it will be to whatever the waypoint was... Intercept mission doesn't effect this. Next Turn your waypoint will point at your Intercept targets location... unless your target also was set to the Intercept mission, moved and had a higher ID# than your ship... it'll just point to the old location (which you'll be able to tell anyhow since the ship won't be there).

- If your HYPjump doesn't occur due to <20ly waypoint target or insufficient fuel, it will then do the normal Intercept move... which is sorta useful to know.
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I was curious (but severely doubted) that if a lower ID# ship HYPjumps first, if a higher ID# ship set to HYPjump and Intercept would adjust its waypoint to the ships new location... but alas things worked as one would expect so nothing to report.

Tried a bunch of variations to see if your own ships vs enemy ships resulted in any differences, it doesn't.
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So outside free information, you can also use Intercept as a backup in case your HYPjumper drops below 50kt of fuel.

I don't think I missed any scenarios, but if any come to mind I have a Sector ready to test them out.
1234 days, 12 hours, 50 minutes ago
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rhunter
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>>Edit: Just tested this in a practice game. Successfully executed a warp 1 intercept mission on a ship 263.7 LY away.<<

I've also just successfully executed a warp TWO intercept on a ship 347.9 LY away.
1234 days, 12 hours, 2 minutes ago
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whisperer
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> Which was my idea, but was shot down

Nothing was "shot down". You were requested to provide evidence that your claim was valid. As usual, you chose not to provide any.

FYI: No evidence === No change. We do not change the documentation based on unsupported rumors. We change it based on supported facts. Sometimes, the support is the source (Joshua, Big Beefer and a few others). Usually, it's several players saying they've seen it, or a sector/turn/objectID.

I believe if you spent as much time supporting your claims as you did whining about us not including all your unsupported claims into the documentation, you'd have nothing to whine about.


WRT the differences page, I created it (it's been updated by others since). The trigger for creating the page was a comment by CSY when I had some spare time to work on it. I have no idea as to whether or not you made a similar suggestion previously. I honestly don't care, and neither should you. If you did make such a suggestion, none of the Editors who saw it had time to work on it.

If you have something to add to the page (or ANY page), please provide DETAILED information and examples. If the information is supported and valid, it will be added. As always, please support your claims.
1234 days, 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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Bullcrap.
1234 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes ago
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obazda
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Glyn and Whisperer, i actually have no idea what exactly you are talkig about ;) this is too high for me, but i could verify this turn what MatrinR wrote: intercepting and successfully HYPing to a 350 (+- 10LY) LY away ship with a Hyperjumper is not possible, the HYP ship will HYP to the position where the target ship stood before movement.
1234 days, 3 hours, 9 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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@Obazda: Whisperer likes to argue, despite attacking people for going off-topic, he tends to do it himself all the time. I don't waste time proving he is lying anymore, it is a lot like talking to conspiracy theorists, a total waste of your time.

@Rhunter: Seeing as Martinr, Obazda and I have tested and found you can't successfully Intercept ships when executing a HYP jump, since it just moves to the last position due to HYPjumping occurring first... you probably should post proof of your claims to having done so. Gnerphk will also be testing it eventually so perhaps you'll listen to him.
1234 days, 2 hours, 59 minutes ago
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rhunter
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@Obazda: Don't let ole' Glynny-boy fool you; he rides in on his high horse and loves to argue more than he accuses Whisperer of doing.

@Glyn: Well, I'll type this slowly and use small words so hopefully you'll be able to follow along and comprehend your mistakes once again (but I doubt you will).

The OP was about HYP ships. But you went off your rocker again and posted a quote from Donovans that plainly (and incorrectly, as was pointed out to you already) states that no ship can execute an intercept mission from a distance of more than 200LY. Donovans, in the entry you quoted, makes absolutely no reference to HYP ships. Period.
I pointed out (once again) just how wrong you are by successfully executing interception missions of much, much more than 200LY multiple times. Period.
Once again, you're wrong. Period.
Once again, I'm sure you'll make up some b.s. about how you're not wrong. You should post proof of how you're not wrong.. lol

If you're going to try and bad mouth people Glynny-boy, you'd best make sure you are squeaky clean... which you never are.

End of story.
1234 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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@Rhunter: "Glyn: I don't think you understand what has been stated."

And I was RIGHT, you are confused.

"Glyn: How is that even news? : http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/movement.htm#hyp"

HYPjumping ships move first is what I was referencing... thus the #hyp part on the link and the part where it explains HYPjumping is first.

"Martinr: @Glyn we all know Donovans is out of date and is not always relevant to Planets Nu."

"Glyn: Not really, in fact it still contains a lot information that Documentation does not.

The only thing it is ever wrong about are bug fixes and host settings, and there is a page in Documentation explaining the differences."

Then; "Jellyfishspam: The part about the 0 speed intercept appears to be news. Donovans says "Upon completing the hyperjump, the ship's warpspeed is set to zero and it's waypoint reset." If that were still true, then a HYPing ship's way point would not track a ship it is trying to intercept."

"Jellyfishspam: Plus, I do believe that I just pointed out something that is inconsistent with nu."

So I then listed the things that my link was wrong about... exclaimed in frustration that I had already submitted those differences to Documentation Editing for addition to http://help.planets.nu/VGAP-3-differences

Because in my SECOND post I said; "there is a page in Documentation explaining the differences."

But I was WRONG about that, so I listed the differences HERE.

"Rhunter: in the entry you quoted, makes absolutely no reference to HYP ships."

http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/movement.htm#hyp

See the #hyp on the end? Get a clue Rhunter.
1234 days, 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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AND after Wmerkel posted I edited them all to be clearer... which is a real pain since I've been only using my phone which makes every letter a chore.
1234 days, 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
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rhunter
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Hey idiot-boy Glyn.. here's your clue. I've got one, you haven't and never will. Here's your exact quote:

From Donovans; "You must be within 200 ly of a ship to intercept it."

Now since you're obviously not smart enough to do your own research, if you go to the page YOU even linked (lol... what a joke you are), the section hyperjumping is then followed by the next section on "intercepting". In THAT section is where you pulled your quote from, not the section hyperjumping.

Oh, and since like to accuse others of whining so much about things, you really should quit whining about your inane "Oh, I've already submitted that and was ignored"... maybe you were ignored because you're the single biggest troll this site has. It's no surprise people have left the site due to your constant attacks here in the feed.

But, exactly as I predicted in my previous response (I don't even know why anyone even responds to you any more... it's nothing but a waste of time. You need to get over yourself, get out of your mom's basement, and get a life instead of attacking people here), you've brought out your typical "I'm not wrong, YOU are" response. Really, a little creativity would go a long way. lol

(now let me guess, is this where you're going to come after me in PM's again? lol)
1234 days, 1 hours, 47 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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@Rhunter: Rule One violation, "Refrain from name calling"; http://help.planets.nu/rules

And you seem to not understand that the pages link is; http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/movement.htm

But I on purpose posted; http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/movement.htm#hyp

There isn't much I can do about Donovans having multiple topics on a single page, but I went out of my way to specifically direct to HYP part which you don't seem to understand.

Seeing as Martinr was dismissing using Donovans altogether, and then I defended using it and in error said any differences from Donovans are covered by; http://help.planets.nu/VGAP-3-differences ... I felt it necessary to list everything else that was wrong on the page to which I linked... basically confirming that what Martinr said was quite valid for the link I used. I admit when I am wrong, you should try it some time Rhunter.

I never "came after" you with PMs, don't tell lies... I can dig them up and post them possibly afterall... and you've been trolling ME endlessly for months, and I haven't sent you a PM ever in that entire time and mostly just ignored your passive-aggressive comments.

Calling me names pretty much destroys your entire claim... but I guess you just want to argue and having lost on the points, you need trollbait. Guess what, I don't care what you thiunk... now either contribute to the conversation or find something else to do.

I suggest editing your post to remove the Rule One violating content if you actually do care about this site and community.


1233 days, 14 hours, 18 minutes ago
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whisperer
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> I don't waste time proving he is lying

Of course not. From your posts, all you know about proof is that others need a mathematical proof, while anyone who doubts your unsupported word is wrong.

Also, you don't appear to understand the difference between an error and a lie. FYI, that difference is intent (something that's rather difficult to prove). This is a difference that most people learn before they grow up.

While my posts may contain errors (yes, I occasionally make errors - it's a byproduct of being human), there is no intent to misinform, and therefore, there are no lies. Even you should be able to follow that.
1233 days, 6 hours, 22 minutes ago
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rhunter
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"Rule One violation, "Refrain from name calling"; http://help.planets.nu/rules"

Yes, yes Glyn.. you WOULD know all about those. After all the rule one violations you yourself have spewn about the feed. But the question I ask is this: Is it name calling if they're all true?

"And you seem to not understand that the pages link is; http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/movement.htm

But I on purpose posted; http://www.donovansvgap.com/help/movement.htm#hyp"

Again, I understand perfectly. Thus my entire point (which you, once again, completely missed.. as expected) was that your claim of your "200 LY" quote from Donovans was in any way linked to the HYP section or feature.

You seem to have problems (one of a great many, obviously) understanding the basics of social interaction Glyn. Just because you're wrong (repeatedly) doesn't mean that someone else "doesn't understand".. lol.

"I admit when I am wrong, you should try it some time Rhunter."

Ok, now THAT was comical coming from you. From Mr. "I miss nothing and forget even less" (by the way, that qualifies as probably the most ridiculous claim I've ever seen made on the feed). I've seen you admit you were wrong twice (even though many will agree you're wrong alot more often than you'll ever admit); Both times were in the Gemini War thread late last month. The first was something about you realizing you were referring to Nu by the wrong name or some such thing. The second was you realizing that you had been posting your b.s. in the public feed thread rather than a private game thread. After which realization you went back and edited some of your replies, including the one where you directed a thinly veiled threat in my direction even though I'd never even posted in that thread. (a thread in which you also "called me out" for no reason other than trolling)

"I never "came after" you with PMs, don't tell lies"

Screw you Glyn. (I'm being VERY polite here. I have much stronger sentiments for you, but am withholding them for now for the sake of the feed)... I don't lie here. Period. Ever. You aren't worth the effort of a lie anyway Glyn. Once again, get over yourself. As for you coming after me in PM's... yes, you did. It's your OPINION that you didn't, it's mine that you did. Period. And your OPINION does not trump mine.

"and you've been trolling ME endlessly for months"

Now THERE'S a lie. Before this week I haven't posted in the feed in quite a few weeks. After your last attack on me (you may recall it, but you'll never admit it. It was in the Thrane thread where the discussion was the poor choice of how he was going about his "group's" list creation, etc). You felt the overwhelming urge to attack me (and a couple others) in that thread for expressing our opinions. You never once actually contributed anything to the thread's OP (a fact which I pointed out to you in the thread, and you ignored it as usual), just kept on with your attacks.

Do I troll you? Nope, never (look up your very own linked definition of trolling, which I reposted to you a while back and you ignored it, again). Can I stand you and your b.s. you spew here regularly? Not on your life. The only time I post here is when I feel I have something to contribute to the conversation. But once you ride in on your high horse and begin your typical attacks I sure as hell am not going to back down to the likes of you.

I never said you sent me a PM during my hiatus from the feed. Quit making stuff up. You've sent me two of them, both after you've attacked me in the feed for having -gasp- an opinion that differed from yours.

"Calling me names pretty much destroys your entire claim... "

Again, your OPINION. Mine differs.

"but I guess you just want to argue and having lost on the points"

Wrong again fool. I don't like to argue at all, but guess what? I can't stand you and your b.s. more.

"Guess what, I don't care what you thiunk..."

Good, then quit replying to me. Forever. Especially when you're wrong and feel the overwhelming urge to try and argue that you're not wrong. lol

"now either contribute to the conversation or find something else to do."

I was contributing to the convo.. unfortunately for you, you're STILL not the feed sheriff here, self appointed or not you have no authority to tell me what to post and what not to.

"I suggest editing your post to remove the Rule One"

You mean like you edited yours to remove the thinly vieled threat you posted against me? Dream on.

Argue all you like you petty little man, I'm done with you.

(my apologies to the rest of those of you having to read this.... obviously this site doesn't care when Glyn runs attacks on people and chases customers away. I was informed, after his last attack, that he was "being handled". Obviously that's not the case)
1233 days, 5 hours, 36 minutes ago
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glyn
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Seeing as I am always just responding to aggression directed at me and others, you are on purpose trying to create a false narrative.

Gnerphk attacked me in the new PlanetsCon thread for no reason, I hadn't even posted in it. Proving I am not the one starting fights up and that was just one recent event of hundreds.

One of the first threads removed from the Activity Feed was Gnerphks one created to attack me... so I'm quite pleased with the new moderating.

I'm the only one defending people from unprovoked attacks on others like we've seen against Thrane/Acezz etc by stating that it is a Rule On Violation. You instead have supported those attacking others.

You haven't provided any proof of me calling people names, because I tend not to... and having done so yourself for no reason, your claims are easy to dismiss as being hypocritical, so I'm confident no one will believe your lies unless they already are biased.

You are always 'liking' any posts that even remotely disagree with me as a sad troll attempt... so is Whisperer who even liked a post by Ted predicting that Super Refit wouldn't fully repair Gunboats... this is passive agressive trolling and you are doing it non-stop. And seeing as you have made these type of posts and claims multiple times now over the last year... yeah, you are trolling me.

The event you refer to was started by someone else, I was reacting to an attack and then edited my messages to cancel the counter provocation because I was informed they would be finally be given a warning to stop attacking people.

You don't care about Rule One, otherwise you would have spoken up in the many public attacks on others instead you 'like' the aggressors posts.

And you started fighting in here with me resorting to name calling for absolutely no reason making your claims absurd in the context.

Perhaps you should actually do so when I actually do attack someone unprovoked, instead of being an aggressor for no reason as you have in this thread. You are a part of the problem otherwise.

Maybe you should actually defend someone instead of just trying to start a fight.
1233 days, 5 hours, 16 minutes ago
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glyn
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Odd choice of an insult by the way... never heard anyone say that before... and I've heard things like 'fishface'. A lot is two words fyi.
1232 days, 14 hours, 50 minutes ago
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whisperer
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> I'm quite pleased with the new moderating.

> Rule One violation

> I'm the only one defending people from unprovoked attacks on others

These three statements are at odds with each other. If you're pleased with the level of moderation, then why do you continue to publicly cite rule violations (usually, but not always, in error)? Inform the moderators and let them do what they believe needs to be done. Also, if the level of moderation is acceptable, why do you believe that you need to defend anyone? The underlying logic here is seriously flawed.

Either the moderators are doing a good job, in which case there's no need for your to either publicly cite rule violations or defend anyone, or the moderation isn't adequate.

> You haven't provided any proof of me calling people names

You frequently describe people as liars ... every time you write that something is a lie. Please see my post above for the appropriate correction. Of course, it's also possible that you misunderstood what was written, or that you're in error.

> Whisperer who even liked a post by Ted predicting that Super Refit wouldn't fully repair Gunboats... this is passive agressive trolling

I selected Like on that post because I believed it to be correct. At that time, there had been no experimentation, so we didn't know what the right answer was. You really should get over this paranoia you're exhibiting.

BTW, since it now appears that you're into correcting spelling, the word aggressive has a double 'g'. Just though you'd like to know ;)
1232 days, 13 hours, 46 minutes ago
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cardno
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Are you guys married? :)
1232 days, 13 hours, 35 minutes ago
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thejungle
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@Cardno, no they are not married. In fact Whisperer, Glyn, and Gnerphk form a quarrelsome threesome.
1232 days, 10 hours, 17 minutes ago
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obazda
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Thank you all for your helpful comments on my question.
I think we can close this thread now as the answer to the original question was given.
1232 days, 9 hours, 22 minutes ago
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legbreaker
RE: Can i intercept a moving ship with a HYP probe (the target...Write Reply
People, relaaaaaxxxx....and check the VGA Planets Rap....;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW9ln4Gkss0&feature=youtu.be

Have a nice rest of the week...
1232 days, 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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@Whisperer: You probably should have double checked if I always misspell aggression with one 'g' first to make sure it wasn't just a typo. Seeing I spell it correctly 5/6 times in this thread... you are clearly trolling and just desperately grasping for anything to act all high and mighty.

Guess what, I don't use a spell checker... deal with it.

And seeing as you trolled Acezz endlessly attacking him about his spelling, you are pretty much the king grammar troll and that is exactly what everyone expects you to do... so no one is surprised.

Unlike 'alot' and 'looser' which are commonly unknowingly misspelled until informed of the correct spelling.
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@Cardno: They are "butt-hurt"... not much I can do about it.

They are also self-described geniuses that deserve 100K a year according to themselves... I'm not a self-described genius and I don't think anyone deserves 100k a year for sitting in front of a computer. Were just not a good match. But I'm sure Whisperer/Gnerphk is a romance made in heaven, they certainly defend each other like they are married.
1232 days, 6 hours, 28 minutes ago
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glyns alternate
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I'm fine with this being over... but I'm sure Whisperer will find another reason to bring this back to life... trolls gonna troll. His goal is to silence me, so I can't oblige.