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920 days, 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
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PlanetsCON 2017 - it's happening and it's happening in Finland!

Me and @Iso--t have been activating regarding this topic.

------ Current status -------

TIME
The weekend 18.-20.8

PLACE
- Overall region: Southern Finland, somewhere in or close to Helsinki for easy access
- Venue to be decided when we have a better idea on how many participants we can expect. In any case the setting is going to be AWESOME

PROGRAM
- Friday night: An unofficial get-together in TBD pub in Helsinki
- Saturday: Conference day! Will be streamed
- Sunday: BBQ and continuation sessions. Might be partly streamed

INFO CHANNELS
- Main streaming channel and alternative
A dedicated chat channel for scheduling the conference and important events will be established and posted here

COST
- Depends on venue and general setup. Cost structure will be venue cost, food cost and beer cost. To be updated when we know more.

INFO FOR TRAVELERS
- How to get around, where to stay etc to be posted here

CONFIRMED PARTICIPANTS
SMN
Iso--t

NEXT ACTIONS:
- Get an idea of approximately how many participants there would be
- Lock the venue

------ End status ------

Keep up to date by subscribing to this thread. Post here or PM me and/or Iso--t to register interest!
920 days, 2 hours, 29 minutes ago
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I'm coming! Participating! Sign me up!
920 days, 1 hours, 58 minutes ago
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@tuikhu is participating, too!
920 days, 1 hours, 55 minutes ago
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Great! May the force be with you.

Is August a good time to combine it with longer holidays in Finland or are you eaten by mosquitos outside the big cities then?
920 days, 1 hours, 41 minutes ago
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Actually 1.7 - 15.8 is in my opinion best time to visit Finland! Welcome Emork & everyone else!
920 days, 1 hours, 7 minutes ago
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Awesome! Checking for tickets right now!
920 days, 1 hours, 3 minutes ago
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Bad luck ... that's during an already booked family vacation :(
Nevertheless ... have a lot of fun :)
920 days, 0 hours, 15 minutes ago
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@Emork if you plan to trek, the main mosquito season ends somewhere between July/August. I normally take my Lapland trekking week on the first week of August, that is still quite warm but tolerable insect-wise.
920 days, 0 hours, 12 minutes ago
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... and the finnish Horwasps? :)
919 days, 23 hours, 28 minutes ago
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Iso, SMN, thanks for the infos. Sounds good!
Google maps says Munich-Helsinki is 2228 km and 116 hours by bicycle. Rob, you join in the Hamburg area?
919 days, 23 hours, 25 minutes ago
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*LOL* :)
919 days, 23 hours, 15 minutes ago
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If anyone plans to use camping facilities while visiting Finland, please keep in mind that the main summer holiday season in Finland is July (for a reason). Camping sites are closing during August and most(?) of them won't be open after mid-August. I learned this the hard way...
919 days, 23 hours, 13 minutes ago
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I'm eager to participate, but my ability to do so at that date is uncertain.
919 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes ago
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Tempted, Emork, but probably only if i can get the bike on a plane ;)
It's the last weekend of summerholidays, had it been different then ofcourse biking would be option No 1. Only 103 hours from Leiden :) Alas, we planned this years biking trip in july already.
919 days, 22 hours, 59 minutes ago
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Timing couldn't be better: we even got our national travelling advertisement out today! https://youtu.be/yP9Qt-bSz40
919 days, 22 hours, 33 minutes ago
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Very funny! :)
919 days, 22 hours, 28 minutes ago
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not as funny as your advertising to ride by bicycle to Finland :)

I am interested in streaming - you choose my wife birthday ... thats a great day and a good decision, but a tough level for the silver tongue to get an allowance to stay in Finland that weekend :)
919 days, 22 hours, 22 minutes ago
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@frostriese Take her with you!

...or, er, not. I mentioned to my wife that I marked those dates to calendar and she replied something so foul I'm not going to write it here!
919 days, 22 hours, 21 minutes ago
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Frosty. Buy more expensive bag and ask help from some sweet tongue diplomacy specialist. Smn? Emork? Do not ask my help - if you do not want to get beaten and your planets account deleted by your wife...
919 days, 21 hours, 0 minutes ago
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Sounds great! I'll keep it in mind, although it is quite far away :/ (but I already checked flights and they are not too bad).
Maybe PlanetsCON 2018 could happen in the West of USA? How does "LAS VEGAS" sound ?? (just an idea...)
Cheers!
919 days, 20 hours, 2 minutes ago
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Sounds good! Marked the days in my agenda.
I can give a presentation about plugins - it would be most awesome to write a (simple!) plugin from scratch right then and there.

Emork has the right approach, but the wrong vehicle.
919 days, 19 hours, 54 minutes ago
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Count me in. Flights are good from London. Looking at Hotels they are booking up fast in Helsinki itself. There appears to be a big arts festival on.
919 days, 19 hours, 0 minutes ago
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I'm in.
919 days, 18 hours, 23 minutes ago
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@Mattrixx
919 days, 14 hours, 36 minutes ago
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@Mcnimble a plugin writing presentation or workshop would be brilliant!

Updated the participant list. Also if you are already booking hotels, please don't book anything you can't cancel as one of our AWESOME venue options involves lodging :)
919 days, 13 hours, 32 minutes ago
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Bad luck, I am moving to Belarus only in September. Europe is much more accessible from there...
919 days, 13 hours, 3 minutes ago
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@McNimble: Awesome idea!
919 days, 6 hours, 30 minutes ago
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@SMN : you are really making me curious about the venues! Could you share some of the ideas (fully aware that plans maybe subject to change overnight, but just to get an idea).
@Koski: my wife is coming with me, maybe yours and mine can organize (or just be) a side-con for partners? :) Unless ofcourse she is a feminist, in which case, I saw in the video, you would have to carry her around on your back all day, correct? That would make the idea a bit awkward... ;)
919 days, 4 hours, 35 minutes ago
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@Robijntje

One of the places we're looking at is a big log cabin in the wilderness (has internet though), just outside of the capital region. I don't want to praise it more than that yet, in case it doesn't work out.
919 days, 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
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@SMN,

It looks like you're making some good progress here, and are almost to the point where a page of documentation should be created. I'll start on it whenever you're ready.

http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib
918 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes ago
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Check me in. No idea how I gonna make it, but thats was the same problem like in the dutch con. It´s much to fantastic to see you guys around, that there could be any hurdle to avoid traveling to finnland.

Thanks for organizing!
918 days, 6 hours, 55 minutes ago
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I'm interested, will mark the dates down on my calendar.
918 days, 3 hours, 23 minutes ago
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Sign me up. Definitely going to be there.
918 days, 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
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Frostie: Bribe your wife with a trip to where she wants on a shifted weekend to celebrate her birthday ;)
918 days, 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
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Mentar, welcome! This gathering will ne awesome! So excited already
918 days, 2 hours, 39 minutes ago
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Big update on the venue in first post!
918 days, 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
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Planets playing is so much better in other countries, apparently. That looks well organized and a lot of fun. Enjoy!
918 days, 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
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If I don't have any football matches I might turn up also from Lahti.
918 days, 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
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@SMN,

The Venue information is what I was waiting for. I'll start the page when I get home this evening.

I'll try to track the changes as they're posted, which should make your job of organizing a bit simpler. If I miss one, please feel free to PM me.


@Spunkmeyer,

> That looks well organized and a lot of fun.

Yes it does, but this is the third PlanetsCon from Europe. They've had more practice than we have.
918 days, 1 hours, 24 minutes ago
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@Whisperer thanks, your effort is much appreciated.

Here are some photos of the venue and surroundings. I have a couple more from the main hall, but gotta first figure out how to edit some faces out from there as I forgot to ask the guys permission to post publicly

https://goo.gl/photos/rx88TndgZbBu7GGUA
918 days, 1 hours, 16 minutes ago
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That looks awesome; now I really want to go! I just hope the POTUS would let me back into the United States afterward.
918 days, 1 hours, 13 minutes ago
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@Darth Balls: Hah! Who would want to go back in the first place? Finland is awesome :)

You would be following up on a tradition! The last retired emperor from the other side of the pond (Canada, Dungeonmaster) visited European players briefly thereafter. Would be even better if you could make it directly to the Con!
918 days, 1 hours, 10 minutes ago
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Ha! Don't count on it, but he doesn't think Alaska is part of the USA anyway, so you should be okay.
918 days, 1 hours, 8 minutes ago
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Alaska? That's where all those Russians are coming from, isn't it? Sarah Palin has already been watching this crisis spot. Damn illegals! Gotta build a wall!
918 days, 1 hours, 3 minutes ago
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The wall would be a short one if built between Alaska and Russia. I'm trying to find a flight from Anchorage to Helsinki that doesn't bounce me through Settle first but I'm coming up short.
918 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes ago
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Re the Friday night: Happy to stay at the venue, or at another hotel. But it may be nice to have a lie in Saturday morning after a heavy night discussing Planets Strategies, rather than getting up early having breakfast, checking out and driving in to the venue.
917 days, 23 hours, 56 minutes ago
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We fins know about heavy mornings. So. We try to arrange friday - sunday.
917 days, 23 hours, 39 minutes ago
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Most likely will participate :)
917 days, 23 hours, 29 minutes ago
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Added temptation to people from overseas: 75th SciFi Worldcon is held in Helsinki in previous weekend (9.-13.8.), only the second time in non-English-speaking country. Start your logistic engines and participate in both! http://www.worldcon.fi/
917 days, 23 hours, 5 minutes ago
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Venue: thumbs up!
We plan to arrive on Wednesday (if boss will let us go), stay in Helsinki for two days and then join the Con. Overnight Fri-Sat in the venue: might be interested, depends on when we actually arrive in Finland (which we should know this week): are there any seperate rooms to house wife and kid?. Hoping to combine Helsinki with some good outdoor time, and, ofcourse, Planets!
917 days, 22 hours, 50 minutes ago
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@SMN , the venue looks stunning! I think Finland is at it's best in August, so that would be terrific. I think that's a place captain Kirk would approve!

Also, you've managed to pick a location that makes it really possible that my wife (and kids!) could possibly travel with me: 9,3km away from the venue is Hotel Korpilampi where we have stayed previously when visiting Korkeasaari Zoo in Helsinki. It's a nice place with extremely affordable prices as it's in the middle of the forest - yet there is a local bus that goes to the capital. Trekking in national park is a possibility my family loves, but also a day trip to Helsinki is a viable option for spouses/families while we have our spacewarstuff ( so @robijntje , side-con activity could be possible!). Let's see, perhaps I'll persuade my wife to take one of her girlfriends with us to keep her company, so I could stay overnight at the venue :D

I would also be interested in giving a presentation named: "The Infinite Views on Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Killing You"
917 days, 22 hours, 23 minutes ago
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Added a couple of indoors photos too.

The place has three 2-bed rooms and a larger sleep area that houses 12. So I can't promise a family room at this point unfortunately. We need to see how the participant list shapes up and what kind of setups people will be happy with. Iso--t promised to sleep in a tent outside if we are running out of space :)
917 days, 22 hours, 4 minutes ago
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Finland I'm coming to rob the underwear of SMN - mmmhm, not the best rob, I will think about it))
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917 days, 21 hours, 48 minutes ago
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I wouldn't like to see @Madinson in Finland as a Privateer underwear thief, but as the Klingon Messiah! I'm sure you could enlighten us a great deal about the Cancer War by then, it would be great to hear those stories.
917 days, 21 hours, 41 minutes ago
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Just in case, my wardrobe is on TrG
917 days, 21 hours, 37 minutes ago
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Wouldn't mind taking one of the beds in the 12-bed area.

Wouldn't mind bringing a tent and joining Iso--t outside, either. Just promise that if I need my thermo underwear, that indoors (planet) is NOT the same location as outdoors (warpwell), so I cannot be robbed by this madinson privateer character, OK? :)
917 days, 21 hours, 3 minutes ago
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I'd strongly recomment the Colonial way of countering the Privateer threat: Never run out of fuel. So let's make sure that the fridge is always properly filled :)
917 days, 16 hours, 17 minutes ago
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Slightly off-topic: Is anyone in North America considering organizing a PlanetsCon this year?
917 days, 9 hours, 59 minutes ago
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LOL SMN, better trg then pop-mode )))

There will be news about the cancer war!!! In August we will know much more then right now. FYI: Its a pool full with sharks!!!
I am the most peaceful Facsist there))))) - do we need a status of the cancer war report at the CON? Yes? Yes!

I want to stay at least 2 weeks in Finland!! I would like to hire a Motorbike and drive around, maybe you guys can offer me a good adress in Helsinki, where I can hire (not to exopensive would be good!)...

Madinson
917 days, 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
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We now have a page about this PlanetsCon.

http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib-planetscon-2017

As more information is announced/provided, it will be added to that page.
916 days, 23 hours, 30 minutes ago
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The spot for the con is really awesome. Wow!
916 days, 20 hours, 44 minutes ago
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Time to show up, you know. With a proper Aquarius summary ;) ... excuses will not be tolerated!
916 days, 11 hours, 43 minutes ago
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In previous PlanetsCons, we didn't track the attendees. Should we do that this time?

Just as the Organizers are doing this better each year, I'd like to see the event documentation get better. While this is the 4th PlanetsCon, it's only the second that we've documented from the beginning.
916 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes ago
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I guess we don't want to track individual people, but putting down statistics, like how many total participant, how many traveled in from foreign countries etc would be very interesting in the long run.

I just asked for an offer from the venue to include Friday night. If the increase is not too drastic and we have enough people who would want to arrive already on Friday night to share the cost, we'll take it.

@Darth+Balls if you make it here I promise to make it to PlanetsCON Alaska, whenever that happens! (oh boy am I gonna get into trouble for this one...!)

@Emork, come on, book the tickets already :)
916 days, 7 hours, 13 minutes ago
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@Madinson, I know next to nothing about motorcycles or their rentals, but a friend who knows more says the prices range from "expensive to insane". For example these should be in the 'ok' range for Finland:
http://www.suomenmpvuokraamo.fi/hinnasto.html

What kind of bike are you looking at and what would your approximate travel plan be like (1000km? 3000km? 5000?)?
916 days, 6 hours, 37 minutes ago
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"you know nothing @SMN Snow", Ygritte
916 days, 6 hours, 34 minutes ago
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MOOTTORIPYÖRÄVUOKRAAMO!

If you can say it 5 times in a row I pay you a beer at the con, Madinson.
916 days, 0 hours, 32 minutes ago
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MOOTTORIPYÖRÄVUOKRAAMO!MOOTTORIPYÖRÄVUOKRAAMO!MOOTTORIPYÖRÄVUOKRAAMO!MEOTTORIPYÖRÄVUOKROOMA!METEORSTORYYÖRÄVUOCREAMER!
This Finnish, man, even Ctrl-V can't cope! :)
914 days, 23 hours, 8 minutes ago
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Would be glad to have the friday in addition!
914 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes ago
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Sign me up!
I guess I need to come out of hiatus and join the fun. Smn, you've got a message.
Living just 15km (well as the bird flys, with a car more like 40...) from that awesome venue there's no way I'll miss this.
Well, and someone has to watch @Theduke not to drink too much :-) He's not used to Finnish Sauna traditions...
914 days, 22 hours, 1 minutes ago
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@Madinson I would suggest something along the lines of an Enduro like BMW GS or Honda African Twin. Some side roads in Finland, even if marked as "proper" in your Nav will end up being gravel. Not much fun with a Cruiser or even normal Streetbikes. But yes, bikes here are sh** expensive.
914 days, 5 hours, 4 minutes ago
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Well, I thought the CON is from friday until sunday and we can stay there? ++Friday, one night is less.

MOOTTORIPYÖRÄVUOKRAAMO! : Please, I think its better to buy an old Scooter for drining around in finland a bit..because I will stay at least 2 weeks in finland, it would be much too expensive with a real MOOTTORIPYÖRÄVUOKRAAMO! - Can someone organize an used scooter for me? I could send money then asap via paypal or whatever...., just send me a PM at matt(at)vgaplanets.de - thanks anyway!

Madinson alias Matt
913 days, 22 hours, 23 minutes ago
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I finally had a chance to look at the pictures taken by SMN. It appears to be a nice place, except for that white stuff all over the place outside. I hope they take the time to clean up most of that before the PlanetsCon :)
913 days, 8 hours, 10 minutes ago
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It's PlanetsCAMP folks! The venue replied and the total cost for Fri-Sat night is +450€ so the reservation is now extended!
913 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes ago
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Very nice! Is that like Spacecamp? We should build some PL21s and shoot them into the sky.
912 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes ago
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Minor updates to the page (http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib-planetscon-2017).

Also, bump :)
912 days, 7 hours, 32 minutes ago
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/1286639251428480/

PlanetsCamp 2017 can be found also at Facebook now!
912 days, 1 hours, 50 minutes ago
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Possibly interested. Negotiations with the wife started by sending an ambassador.
912 days, 1 hours, 35 minutes ago
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If someone is willing to take notes on setting up the technical side of this presentation, I can put the notes into a document (maybe "How to setup and run a PlanetsCon"?) and preserve it for future PlanetsCons. This will help to simplify and improve the task each time.

I believe that a checklist for stuff needed in the organization phase would also be helpful.

Similar information from previous PlanetsCons, especially including what went wrong, would also be helpful.
912 days, 1 hours, 20 minutes ago
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Wow, PlanetsCAMP sounds like a blast. Good job on the venue! I would love to come, but I hope to be in the middle of the mountains on a month long backpacking trip if I can get the permits. Again, great job on putting this together.
911 days, 7 hours, 18 minutes ago
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PlanetsCON Finland 2017 is now PlanetsCAMP Finland 2017!!

----- Current status -------

TIME
The weekend 18.-20.8

PLACE
- We have a booking on Karhunpesä, Nuuksio, Espoo, starting at 17:00 Friday 18.8 and ending at 16:00 Sunday 20.8.
- Karhunpesä is a big log cabin on the border of the Nuuksio national park, in a beautiful and somewhat isolated setting. It is perfect for a conference of 15-25 persons, with a fireplace, good BBQ setup, sauna (obviously! It's Finland :) and a big palju (outdoors heated bath tub). The place allows own food and drinks, with optional catering. Up to 18 guests can stay overnight, which allows for proper late-night conferencing :)
- There are really nice national park hiking paths starting right next to the place. For example a good day trek option for your significant others
- I took a few photos about the place: https://goo.gl/photos/rx88TndgZbBu7GGUA

- Friday night: An unofficial get-together in Karhunpesä
- Saturday 09:30-18:00 EET: Conference day! Sessions start at 10:00, will be streamed.
- Saturday 18:00 - Sunday 04:00 EET: BBQ, beer, sauna and palju. Late night tactical analysis. Will not be streamed :P
- Sunday 10:00 EET - 14:00 EET: Breakfast, more BBQ and continuation sessions (After 3 conferences we know the schedule never holds). Might be partly streamed

PRESENTATIONS
- McNimble on creating plugins, presentation and/or workshop UNCONFIRMED
- Joshua State of the Nuniverse? UNCONFIRMED
- Commander Koski: "The Infinite Views on Diplomacy or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Killing You"
- Madinson on Cancer War
- State of Documentation Whisperer/Gnerphk

INFO CHANNELS
Site page: http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib-planetscon-2017 for static information
FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1286639251428480/ for banter and pics
Video streaming:
Announcements and information:

COST
- TL;DR: 70-130€ for main event plus 50-80€ for Friday arrivers
- Long explanation: Cost structure will be venue cost, food cost and beer cost. Karhunpesä being an overnight booking with lodging brings the cost up, but on the other hand as it removes the need to book a hotel for Sat-Sun the deal might actually be very good for travelers coming from far away.
- We're looking at different options to split the cost fairly as some participants probably don't want to stay overnight and some might be there for only the presentations. While exact mathematics still depend on the amount of people and how many want to stay overnight, the ballpark starts from somewhere around 70€ for Saturday conference + beers + BBQ to around 130€ for the full monty.
- The extra cost of the venue for Friday-Saturday night is 450€, which we'll split between those who arrive there on Friday. Based on preliminary interest we are looking at max 80€, possibly even as low as 50€ or so per person.

INFO FOR TRAVELERS
- The address for the venue is Nuuksiontie 83, Espoo. Me and Iso--t will organize lifts for those traveling from far away.
- There is plenty of parking space at the location if you organize your own car ride
- For those coming on their own without a car, there is a bus stop really close to the place. It takes ~30min by bus from Espoo Center railway station

CONFIRMED PARTICIPANTS
SMN
Iso--t

SIGNED UP
Commander Koski
Tuikhu
Robijntje
Mcnimble
Dark Lord
Dazdya
Theduke
Mentar
Television
Madinson
Mclaughlin
Emork

INTERESTED
Tarrasq
Faqudi
Gamoss

NEXT ACTIONS:
- Continue to gather participants
- Start gathering presentations!
- Brew Klingon Ale
- Figure out this turn of the Year stuff

------ End status ------

Keep up to date by subscribing to this thread. Post here or PM me and/or Iso--t to register interest!
910 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes ago
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Add me to the list of participants ... flights are booked.

In case of overbookings in lodge ... I will guard the tent of ISO :)

Any interest in sharing vehicles to the location (of cource no bicycles).
909 days, 5 hours, 52 minutes ago
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I bought flights, so I'll be at the CAMP from Friday to Sunday.
909 days, 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
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Finland os too far from Christmas Islands...
Sorry guys
909 days, 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
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It's only 179 days until PlanetsCon.
909 days, 1 hours, 52 minutes ago
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Smn: I think you should move those people who have already confirmed that they booked their ticket to the "Confirmed Participants" list.
909 days, 0 hours, 55 minutes ago
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@Mentar : good idea!
Speaking of which: confirming Dazdya and myself, we've just booked tickets.
909 days, 0 hours, 9 minutes ago
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Roger that, I moved those who have confirmed dates earlier to the Fri-Sun category, I hope I got everything right, please let me know if I missed something.
909 days, 0 hours, 5 minutes ago
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Nice to read so many people interested in PlanetsCamp Finland. It seems I am going to sleep in a tent - or in a Jeep. Sounds great! We try to do our best with SMN for you all to have a memorable weekend in Karhunpesä!
908 days, 23 hours, 35 minutes ago
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mcnimble
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Confirming both my attendance Fri - Sun and the presentation. I will write a plugin from scratch.

On Sunday, if there is interest, I can do a workshop to get you started writing your own plugins.
908 days, 22 hours, 14 minutes ago
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@Smn,

Any chance of a Capricorn update, or maybe even a post-game summary?
908 days, 22 hours, 9 minutes ago
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Well nothing much happened during the last two years :D

If it's still ongoing, I can do a small update on a filler slot, maybe on Sunday. But I wouldn't want to take the space from some fresher presentation.

If it's finished by then, well then you're going to get a close analysis of the second battle of Tyre :p
908 days, 21 hours, 22 minutes ago
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Will that presentation be scrambled again? That is the last argument I needed to go for cheap tickets (and expensive beer). I see my name is included already (thanks to slack).
908 days, 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
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That presentation will be live-only! No scrambling needed
908 days, 0 hours, 11 minutes ago
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> That presentation will be live-only!

:(
908 days, 0 hours, 7 minutes ago
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live not recorded for history, but may be streamed
906 days, 0 hours, 11 minutes ago
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Please move me to the confirmed section for Friday to Sunday, SMN. Thanks a lot to you and Iso-T for this! Let's set up camp.
905 days, 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
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You can add me to the confirmed list. I haven't done much on my Excel VBA script to import API data, but if people are interested I could do a workshop on this. Either in it's most basic form, e.g. concept, basic technique and just suck in some data or as part of a more useful planning tool to manage your fleet or starbase resources or what have you, there is a bit of time till august to figure that out.
905 days, 3 hours, 40 minutes ago
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@Qinic Confirmed for Fri-Sun I assume?

Also as we now have 18 guests, it will start to get tight with beds at Karhunpesä.

@Commander+Koski, @Tuikhu, @Dark+Lord, @Theduke, @Television, @Mclaughlin
please let me know your plans, Fri-Sun / Sat-Sun and staying overnight or not?
905 days, 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
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I live near(ish) so don't need accomodation.
905 days, 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
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Yes, Fri to Sun, Flight will arrive at 15:15, maybe we can find our way to the venue together with a few people.

Looks like there will be a few people Guarding Iso-T's tent.

905 days, 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
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I live near(ish) so don't need accomodation. Don't know my exact plans yet, but participate certanly for Sat, no in Fri and maybe in Sun (depends of hangover)
904 days, 22 hours, 56 minutes ago
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My plan is to motorbike from the UK and bring a tent. Route via Germany, Denmark, Sweden. So I will not need a bed.
904 days, 21 hours, 0 minutes ago
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@SMN,

> Also as we now have 18 guests, it will start to get tight with beds at Karhunpesä.

If there's another hotel nearby, you might be able to use it for the overflow, instead of tents. I don't know what this would do to your pricing structure.
904 days, 20 hours, 58 minutes ago
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I agree. I mean, it's fantastic that the meeting is so well-visited, but maybe it's a good idea to look for additional hotel options nearby.
904 days, 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
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@Smn confirmed for Fri-Sun, I can also bring "tent space" for up to 6 just in case, and I can go home for the night as well, if necessary. Although no alcohol in the evening sounds like a bad choice.
@Frostriese and others coming by plane. I would suggest to arrange some shuttle service since the venue is a bit off the well driven tracks and quite far from the airport. I am willing to do one or more trips depending on how many people arrive at the airport and when.
904 days, 0 hours, 29 minutes ago
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There are a couple of hotels nearby, and last I checked a really nice looking villa with 3 bedrooms not too far away via AirBnb, so we definitely will be able to get hotel options.

The main issue with hotels is getting there after the BBQ, as holding back with the Klingon Ale is difficult and I can imagine getting taxis to the middle of the forest within any sensible lead time is going to be difficult, and if not a shared ride the cost can easily become prohibitive. A pre-booked big taxi might work best in that case.

If we go over 18 by just a couple of people, we can do some tent solutions but if (when?) we have over 20 people who wants to stay overnight there or nearby let's then look closer at the villa and hotel options.

Whatever the case, the priority for cabin beds goes to the first 18 signups.
902 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes ago
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coen1970
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bump (to allow forwarding a link)
899 days, 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
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***bump*** PlanetsCamp Finland can still handle more participants ***bump***

Also, a call for presentations! We could handle a few more!
897 days, 2 hours, 0 minutes ago
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whisperer
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I added Qinic's presentation to the list. Sorry for the delay.

http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib-planetscon-2017
896 days, 22 hours, 31 minutes ago
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What about playing a Blitz game with three groups ... discussing strategy, tactic and implementation as group is a good exercise for everyone ... I suggest a fixed turn / fixed time limit ...or placing it at the end of the agenda for Saturday :)
896 days, 21 hours, 22 minutes ago
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emork the lizard king
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I guess such an end-of-agenda item would be grilled by the barbecue or washed away by river Olut :)
896 days, 7 hours, 11 minutes ago
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We need a chess-clock for that blitz..
886 days, 21 hours, 44 minutes ago
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Do you still need presentations?
876 days, 23 hours, 18 minutes ago
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dark lord
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Just to confirm, I have booked my Ferry Tickets. UK to Holland and Sweden to Finland. I will arrive in Finland Friday morning and leave late on Sunday.

Any recommendations for places to stay on route in Sweden would be appreciated. I intend to stay three nights in Sweden each way, taking different routes to experience the best of the motorbiking roads. Michelin maps arrives this morning so now route planning.

By the way, the twister the road the better.
876 days, 23 hours, 0 minutes ago
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MC Stockholm - you will want to drive the northside: Brottby to Vaxholm (and from Vaxholm around Varmdö and back into Stockholm) and the other is southside: Rosenhill. Both have streches with biker meets every weekend.
867 days, 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
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whisperer
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Bump.

I think additional presentations are still needed.
867 days, 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
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I could do something small an humorous.

"Different player types"

Which ones exist, how to identify them, and how to deal with them. Tongue in cheek, and not entirely serious ;)
867 days, 0 hours, 45 minutes ago
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1. I may do presentation about the Bot strategies - how to get best out of the worst

2. I have also thought to arrange something embarassing and something close to Finish soul: "the workshop of truth".

- Idea is to admit your failures. Your achilles heel. Idea is to confess. If you want to be best, you must admit where you are not good at, and try to fix that. Nobody is perfect. That is something I have learned at my work. Admitting your own weaknesses is the only way to be a master

Everyone can ask questions like: What is your story of wins, were you just absolutely super-good, or were your opponents just kittens? Or could it be, that you had just good luck? Did you took advantage of droppers? Did you win inspite of bad game play, because... you got luck. Then, If (when) you lose a game, was it jus bad luck and "everyone backstabbed you". No. You did something wrong. Admit it!

After some bitter defeats, some possibly lucky wins and some analyzing - I am ready to confess!

Other confessions needed - without BUT:s. This will be retribution!
866 days, 20 hours, 31 minutes ago
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qinic
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Any volunteers for a campaign mode presentation, e.g. for each race what the advantages and disadvantages of the different ships options are, what to consider and what not to aim for and why.
844 days, 5 hours, 22 minutes ago
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@Qinic,

> advantages and disadvantages of the different ships options

That would be a rather large presentation. Perhaps some smaller presentations (1/2 hour) that are race specific.
839 days, 4 hours, 39 minutes ago
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@Mcnimble

> I can give a presentation about plugins - it would be most awesome to write a (simple!) plugin from scratch right then and there.

If you're looking for a plugin to write as part of the plugin, you might want to consider a plugin to maximize cash/colonist production at a world with a starbase, as described here:

http://planets.nu/#/activity/3000224
838 days, 23 hours, 20 minutes ago
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To my great regret I can't join. The 19th I'll be travelling from France to Holland, and it seemed my life does not has advanced cloning activated.
817 days, 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
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smn
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Update:

Klingon Ale is finally fermenting!

Next up:
- Budget calculations and locking the admission
- Presentations and schedule (preliminary)
- Turn of the year submissions
816 days, 14 hours, 20 minutes ago
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whisperer
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> Klingon Ale is finally fermenting!

I hope you're using something similar to WPL099, and have a Bourbon Barrel (or Bourbon-soaked oak chips) for the secondary :)

http://www.whitelabs.com/yeast-bank/wlp099-super-high-gravity-ale-yeast
816 days, 14 hours, 17 minutes ago
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@whisperer I trust on brettanomyces bruxelles for the necessary Klingon funk :)
797 days, 5 hours, 11 minutes ago
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> Klingon Ale is finally fermenting!

It's probably time to move it to the secondary.

Any chance you could post the recipe?
796 days, 23 hours, 29 minutes ago
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I'm afraid I'll jinx it if I do :p
796 days, 23 hours, 11 minutes ago
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whisperer
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@Smn,

> I'm afraid I'll jinx it if I do

Understood. There's no need to invite Fek'lhr to curse your creation :)
791 days, 23 hours, 50 minutes ago
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Ale bottled! On first taste it wasn't too bad, there is still hope

Next up: Finalize the cost side calculations, kickstart turn of the year submissions
791 days, 21 hours, 32 minutes ago
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Excellent. In my experience as long as it doesn't taste bad at first, subsequent tastings only get better the longer you drink it.
791 days, 11 hours, 13 minutes ago
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Call for presentations: Is anyone who is joining experienced with the Horwasp? Enough to tell some stories? Or even to get to some basic strategies?
764 days, 20 hours, 13 minutes ago
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Bump.
754 days, 0 hours, 36 minutes ago
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Hi, any further updates for this?

Just checking as I am setting off from London in 2 weeks time on a motorbike.

Dark Lord
754 days, 0 hours, 11 minutes ago
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Dark Lord. Welcome!
754 days, 0 hours, 9 minutes ago
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We're currently working on estimating the food and drink costs with Iso-t and Koski (target is full boarding) and once we get those nailed I can send out payment info via email. We should have everyones email gathered.
753 days, 23 hours, 33 minutes ago
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Ok this is the full cost estimate and breakdown.

We will have three categories because of the length of the event. Everyone who have signed up so far are ok to stay at the premises so there is no separate category for tent/hotel stayers.

Category 1: Saturday only, 70€.
For those who come only to watch the presentations and do not stay overnight. Lunch, BBQ, sauna, hot tub and drinks included.

Category 2: Saturday-Sunday, 120€.

The same as above, plus lodging, brunch and extra sessions on Sunday.

Category 3: Friday-Sunday, 170€.

Everything included.

The estimate is based on food and drinks being 65 per person for full stay (includes the catered lunch on Saturday) and Karhunpesä costing 1650€ for the weekend.

With our current confirmed guest list we have 1 in category 1, 2 in category 2 and 14 in category 3.

This makes the mathematics a total of 2690€ incoming and 2705 in cost. If for any reason there is extra money, it will be invested in quality and quantity of food/drink, and perhaps purchasing extra services like cleaning.

This is the best we could do after long calculations, I hope it feels fair enough for everyone participating. Payment details coming in by email soon.
753 days, 22 hours, 52 minutes ago
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Payment details email sent, please contact me if you have signed up but didn't receive yours!

Also there is still room in Karhunpesä for additional sign-ups!
752 days, 12 hours, 37 minutes ago
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Hi all: I am looking forward at an excellent CON in Finland, where 2 Fascist-Commanders playing in Championship will met and talking about Poppers ))))

Well, I have one question: Is there a place near by where people arriving earlier can stay by tent??

I can have a look at google Maps, but you guys living next too know maybe a very nice place?!!

Madinson
752 days, 11 hours, 39 minutes ago
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Camping Espoo Oittaa is nearby and in very pretty spot too.
752 days, 10 hours, 14 minutes ago
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GREAT! Thanks! If someone arrives earlier or/and want to move later. like I, just contact me, I will hire a 11qm woodhouse there...just send me PM,

Madinson
752 days, 9 hours, 46 minutes ago
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Also if you don't need the best facilities, the surrounding Nuuksio area has camping possibilities, and for something exotic some of the islands south of Espoo can be reached by regular ferry traffic and allow camping, for example Stora Herrö would be great
747 days, 22 hours, 57 minutes ago
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Great organization, thx a lot! For a stay in Finland this is really a bargain.

I'm looking forward to see you all, Commanders!
743 days, 4 hours, 16 minutes ago
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Two weeks until PlanetsCon 2017 :)

Any last-minute presentations?
743 days, 3 hours, 55 minutes ago
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How about Joshua´s State of the Nuniverse? Is it confirmed?
740 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes ago
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https://www.sinn-frei.com/media/2017/27170_078.jpg

:)=

(i know its august, an it doesnt fit. thought its coool anyway)
738 days, 20 hours, 38 minutes ago
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Do we have a presentation schedule yet?
738 days, 0 hours, 7 minutes ago
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Working on it. We have still a few unknowns in presentations. The final schedule will be available some time next week.
734 days, 6 hours, 51 minutes ago
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In the early Summer I made a worpress site for Planets Con 2017, https://planetscon2017.net/

Then I was in doubt if we need it at all - this discussion is working perfectly well and the convention is being documented in the How to play --> Contributions section. That's why the Wordpress site was just buried.

But now the Con time is almost here and things are getting done! I made a blog post there because I'm asking about your rider https://planetscon2017.net/2017/08/14/describe-me-your-rider/ - also I added my contacs there in contacts (it could be that I'm the man present at the venue if you arrive early etc. - if you have some problems you can call me!) and I can add here some other stuff if needed, that will be visible there this week only. Some updates, additional info etc. that has no need for long lasting documentation.

Also, just a reminder that there is of course always room for last minute registerations ( @Engelbert , it's just a short distance from Tallinn!)
734 days, 6 hours, 37 minutes ago
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(Then just trying to add here some random Finns that are not registered so they could know that we've got an actual Planets Con here in Finland - hey that's awesome whyareyounotcoming??! @Iivarijulma @Varmanakki @Mursu

And everybody, I'm driving from Jyväskylä to Nuuksio via Lahti and Kerava on Friday if you need a lift.)
733 days, 23 hours, 44 minutes ago
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Thanks for the invite but no. Have fun!
733 days, 10 hours, 13 minutes ago
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Sounds like a lot of fun and the site is really nice. Coincides with a hiking trip in Spain, so I'll have to pass.
733 days, 9 hours, 51 minutes ago
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The one time this con is located somewhere that's truly accessible for me as a father! I'm disappointed that I couldn't arrange things to be able to join. The amount of conflicting life is just too much. :( I'm actually visiting Helsinki the weekend before and the weekend after. :D

But... One request. Streams available also afterwards and for someone without a Facebook account, please.
732 days, 1 hours, 29 minutes ago
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Now that I remember - the house policy for the hot tub is that you have to wear a swimsuit. So please remember to pack one!
732 days, 0 hours, 36 minutes ago
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I packed Aug 1st ;)
731 days, 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
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How do we sleep? Sleeping bag?
Bedlinen? Do we need some?
731 days, 3 hours, 36 minutes ago
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>theduke:
>How do we sleep? Sleeping bag?
>Bedlinen? Do we need some?

Good questions, like to add towels to the list. E.g. what is already there?
731 days, 2 hours, 38 minutes ago
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I seem to remember that bedlinen was accounted for, but now I am starting to worry...
731 days, 2 hours, 28 minutes ago
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Bedlinen are included
731 days, 2 hours, 11 minutes ago
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If the towels are not included let me know and I'll bring some nice ones: Donald Duck, Spiderman... maybe even Barbapapa.
730 days, 12 hours, 48 minutes ago
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I'm just finishing up before starting my journey to the venue:

NEXT TURN IN 7 HOURS!!
https://planetscon2017.net/2017/08/18/next-turn-in-7-hours/
730 days, 11 hours, 51 minutes ago
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Update with towels: they are now included! (they were not but could be added with very litte cost, so very good thing this question came up)
730 days, 3 hours, 5 minutes ago
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Wow, awesome place! We're here and drinking SMN's home brewed beer while the barbecue is getting ready.
730 days, 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
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Sounds great,
drink one for me, too! ;)
730 days, 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
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I'll be there in tomorrow morning before ten o'clock. Looking forward to it :)
730 days, 1 hours, 41 minutes ago
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Have fun guys!! Wish I am there ...
729 days, 23 hours, 42 minutes ago
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Trivia question: Who is Nuuksio National Park named after?
729 days, 23 hours, 37 minutes ago
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https://m.facebook.com/groups/1286639251428480?id=1286639251428480&_rdr

Check the pictures along the way
729 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes ago
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Checked the origin of the name. Not a person at all, but an ancient name for swan in Same language.
728 days, 21 hours, 13 minutes ago
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A great first day.
728 days, 20 hours, 50 minutes ago
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OK can someone go through all the videos and document it as an official release.

Although they are available to watch I prefer to read a specific summary of what is being released.

Although I have looked at some of them some people may not want to look at several hours of presentations and miss important bits in the crackle or misunderstand what someone said.

Especially as what has happened in previous Planets Cons things gets changed after the videos.

So we need what was presented. Then what changed after feed back.

In an official release from Joshua.

Then a second one after everyone suggests changes or to clear up uncertainties in crackly presentations.

Not buried in the middle of a 300 reply forum where 1/4 of those think what was in the videos is what is 100% happening (with some confusion over a crackly bit where 50% of these miss hear something) and are wrong as it was changed due to feed back. 1/4 think was what the first change in at around post 100 from BB is happening but didn't because it was changed on post 150 by Joshua. And 1/2 do not know anything has changed as they did not watch the hours of presentations and have not read the forum as its 300 posts long and gave up after reading 50 posts and forgot what was happening as an argument kicked over if the changes are good or bad so are not sure if the stuff in the beginning is right or the stuff near the end is right.

Thanks :-)

728 days, 19 hours, 54 minutes ago
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@Martinr,

> can someone go through all the videos and document it

Does this help?

https://planetscon2017.net/presentations/
http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib-planetscon-2017

Both contain links to recordings and, where available, slide decks.


> an official release from Joshua

Some of what Big Beefer described has already been released. This can be researched and documented, once we figure out exactly what changed.

The Horwasp Beta and Emork's Legacy aren't real yet.

I expect some sort of release announcement in the next week or so, but it might not cover everything.


> uncertainties in crackly presentations

Clear sound for this sort of thing is harder than most people think.


For additional documentation, please be patient. There are only so many hours in a day, and we need to understand the changes, in detail, before we can properly document them.
728 days, 18 hours, 28 minutes ago
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"Martinr: Not buried in the middle of a 300 reply forum where 1/4 of those think what was in the videos is what is 100% happening (with some confusion over a crackly bit where 50% of these miss hear something) and are wrong as it was changed due to feed back."

Where is the fun in that!?!
728 days, 2 hours, 33 minutes ago
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@Martinr,

I just entered 7 tickets on the new features announced by Big Beefer. They won't fall off at our end.

The Horwasp Beta 1 upgrade and the ability to have "Cloak and Intercept" in Standard aren't supported yet, but they got tickets anyway.
728 days, 1 hours, 24 minutes ago
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Back home after a fantastic experience at the PlanetsCamp Finland. BIG thanks to the organizers SMN, Iso--T, Commander Koski and Faqudi!
Seems they had activated advanced cloning for themselves. Otherwise I can't explain how they could be everywhere - in front of the beamer doing a presentation, behind the beamer caring for connection and transmission, in the kitchen preparing breakfast and snacks, at the barbecue grill, heating the sauna, arranging cold beer in a hot tub, guiding a hike through the forest - and all this in relaxed mood, always ready for a good talk about Planets or their country. It was like holidays in a 5 star hotel but with the charm of a mountain hut.

Best regards to the other attending commanders. I hope you had/have a good journey home or onwards. It was great fun with all of you!

728 days, 0 hours, 37 minutes ago
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I need to mirror what our still-Emperor said. This was an absolutely fantastic trip, and a near-perfect performance of our Finnish hosts. Thank you very very much for your efforts, it was absolutely exemplary. Food, drink, amenities, you call it - whatever was needed was readily available all the time.

A Gold Star from me!
728 days, 0 hours, 29 minutes ago
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It was a great weekend! You all who participated made it actually!

It was honor to serve you, and the best prize for us organizers is that you all enjoyed. We enjoyed alot, and will definitely participate next year - who ever will arrange the Con.

Thanks for all participants!

- Going back to calculate some mineral gains - and to find some forgotten rocks ;)



728 days, 0 hours, 6 minutes ago
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I only had a chance to be there for one night, but I really enjoyed the company. Thanks everyone for nice discussions and of course the organizing crew for arranging everything!

Need to watch the presentations when I have time!

Hope to see you guys in Echo cluster at some point in the future!
727 days, 23 hours, 54 minutes ago
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What Iso--t said. It was great to have you all here, from organizer point of view everything going this smoothly, atmosphere relaxed and happy, good discussions, that's the main thing! Also everyone seemed to help out with different things so it never felt like being overloaded or anything.

The only thing we had to cut in the end from presentations was turn of the year - commented in the end of the last broadcast, apologies to @Ryder+Cross for that. We'll get the last missing presentations and more pictures online at some point during the next week.

@Mentar your diplomatic advice was taken and the result was great success! Now - time for some rest! :)
727 days, 21 hours, 37 minutes ago
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Kiitos! It was very nice indeed! @Psydev felt like it was X-Mas with all the new implemented releases. Well for all participants I guess it feels like the day after the X-Mas dinners. all 3 days a BBQ, the Sunday Lunch BBQ was "only to finish the leftovers", and actually it could be seen as another full dinner.

Thanks for all work in organizing, the presentations including nice Emperor Game, and for the Finnish hospitality. And hope that we get a new one scheduled soon, so we can align holidays around it.
727 days, 21 hours, 37 minutes ago
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Kiitos! It was very nice indeed! @Psydev felt like it was X-Mas with all the new implemented releases. Well for all participants I guess it feels like the day after the X-Mas dinners. all 3 days a BBQ, the Sunday Lunch BBQ was "only to finish the leftovers", and actually it could be seen as another full dinner.

Thanks for all work in organizing, the presentations including nice Emperor Game, and for the Finnish hospitality. And hope that we get a new one scheduled soon, so we can align holidays around it.
727 days, 9 hours, 38 minutes ago
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I added my request to wrong discussion - okay, here goes for maximum coverage :D

That Robotic engine oil was some potent stuff, with great company it gave a cumulative bonus that gave me energy and strenght but removed will to sleep. A total of few hour sleep during the weekend equals rather slow recovery :D

This evening I'll add some pictures to Planetscon2017.net, I'll add them so that I can accompany them with texts and short stories. So if you have pictures, please send those with a description/text or/and short story so I can add them (with PM for example).
727 days, 9 hours, 9 minutes ago
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I am so glad, that atleast you and SMN enjoyed the Robotic Engine & Gear oils. They actually are potent stuff
727 days, 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
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It was great meeting you all, albeit I still don't think I managed to learn who everyone was, but the vast majority I think I got. Planing and hosting execution was exemplary, detox however will take a few days at least.
Engine oil was great, self preservation made me go very easy on the stuff. Really enjoyed the Gin + Grapefruit stuff, very tasty. Presentations were very interesting and I think I have to create the means to calculate Iso-t's mining concept against game histories to see what the difference is and what it is telling me.
Anyway all in all a great weekend, special thanks to the hosts
727 days, 8 hours, 32 minutes ago
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Qinic. I would appreciate if you could tell me, when you have that kind of API ready. I have been through some games, but doing those calculations manually is hard work. (For example very rough comparison, mines built at turns 10, 15 and 20 compared to fleet composition at turn 30) would be nice info to get. And I am sure this is actually pretty easy for someone who know how to do that - I can´t
727 days, 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
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@Iso-t need to catch up on some work but will be down to 1 game soon so I can dedicate some time to this. Your example is not what I planned but much easier to do. You are right if you know what you are doing the example you gave would only take 2-3 hours to code and depending on how many games you want to include in your comparison be a couple or so hours to setup the data pool and download the data. I would think you would want to make a list of game IDs and Player IDs of the games you want to examine and the players performance you want to analyze and than hit a button to grab all the data and have it fill the essential data points into a table so you can graph this.
However all this would do is provide some means to prove your theory right or wrong. It will not provide the means to model your theory against real data and to optimize/fine tune your model.
Anyway I can see a lot of programming and spreadsheet bashing coming my way.
727 days, 7 hours, 31 minutes ago
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That would be interesting to read. My presentation was exaggerated and provocative on purpose. When you see this kind of presentation - you will remember it (good or bad). Everybody that listened it, even not agree with me, will definitely consider building some more mines in their next game for some planets. Presentation was not to proof you should build ALWAYS mines first - definitely not actually, what would be a big mistake. The idea was to make people think, if they could achieve better results building mines more agressively universally - when they can afford it

I could find 5-10 planets in my ALL games where I could have achieved better results doing this

I believe that is so universally - and it is regarding to some game analysis I have been doing with some high level players

By the way. You could do this mine data analyze to some top level players decent carrier race games - and do same after 1-2 years, for the the games that had been started after the Con. Would be interested to see, if that has actaully affected habits to build up mines
727 days, 5 hours, 18 minutes ago
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Thank you all for fun Con and especially for organisers. It was interesting to talk with all of you and presentations were fascinating, especially Iso-T's theories about early mining. See you all in Echo cluster!

Television
727 days, 2 hours, 32 minutes ago
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The Memories -page is up: there aren't many pictures there yet - please send me yours and/or tell us your stories and add songs to our convention soundtrack!
727 days, 0 hours, 14 minutes ago
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I'd like to thank the presenters for their cooperation on documenting this PlanetsCon. At this time, most of the presentations have a slide deck, in addition to the presentation video. This is better then we've been able to do previously.

When this is combined with the high quality presentations and the excellent organization, I'd say this is the best PlanetsCon so far.

Great job all !!!
726 days, 23 hours, 37 minutes ago
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I was impressed also. Well done!

And you brought me back from the dead.
726 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes ago
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Was great fun! Thanks all for organizing and attending!

I spent another night in Nuuksio, now in Helsinki, tomorrow to Savonlinna.

https://chmeee.org/ext/planets.nu/CON/presentation.html

Not sure how useful these slides are, the recording of the presentation is probably more helpful if you want to build a plugin.
726 days, 23 hours, 9 minutes ago
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Congrats, Nanning !!
726 days, 23 hours, 4 minutes ago
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Oh, so many beautiful words about Planets Camp Finland, but I think @Tom+Graves is exaggerating a bit:

"I was impressed also. Well done!

And you brought me back from the dead."

@Whisperer it's easy to improve when you are standing on the shoulders of giants!

Pictures from the Con and stuff! https://planetscon2017.net/memories/

726 days, 21 hours, 17 minutes ago
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Finally! I'm done with editing the (phone mic) audio recordings, might help understand the local presentations and discussions a bit better then from Youtube. I sent @SMN a link, will do that for @CommanderKoski as well so he can add also some photos of mine to the "Memories". And they were all great!
Thanks for a perfect Con!
726 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes ago
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@Mcnimble,

> https://chmeee.org/ext/planets.nu/CON/presentation.html

I converted these 14 slides to a PDF and linked it into the PlanetsCon 2017 documentation.

http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib-planetscon-2017
726 days, 6 hours, 20 minutes ago
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I added some photos by @McNimble! Now I know that @McLaughlin is going to send me yet some more pictures (including the group photo with most attendants, taken on Sunday), but if You have some more photos, please send some! There is plenty of space in the Internet to fill!

https://planetscon2017.net/memories/

Ps. the page arranges the pictures into a random mosaic every time you open the page!
726 days, 5 hours, 44 minutes ago
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The memories page is great, Commander Koski. Virtually prolongs that awesome weekend. I'll send a few pictures to you this evening, I'll also have a look if the PlanetsQuiz can be compiled into a stand-alone presentation.

726 days, 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
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I'm working on adding audio to Qinics presentation - Youtube ain't making that easy.

So happy @McLaughlin took those backups!
726 days, 5 hours, 2 minutes ago
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I have no clue how I managed to explode it to 2.3GB from 350MB video and 51MB worth of extra audio .. Will try to do something, meanwhile as the audio is borken, I added the backup audio track to the presentations site.
726 days, 4 hours, 40 minutes ago
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Youtube will have decoded the MP3 and then done something stupid. Also the Audio is likely not completely in sync with the presentation because the recording had slight glitches as well where a couple of milliseconds were missing.

@Commander+Koski I sent the Google Drive link as PM here in the messaging system.
726 days, 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
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Sorry @McLaughlin and everybody who have contacted me via PM: I haven't gotten your messages! Please use the email in here https://planetscon2017.net/contact/

I'll check my profile's email settings again...
726 days, 0 hours, 29 minutes ago
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I improved the audio in my presentation and converted it from a WMV to an MP4 (58MB -> 26MB). If this could be uploaded into the YouTube channel, it might save some of Joshua's bandwidth while keeping all the recordings in one place.

http://planets.nu/_library/2017/8/stateofthedocumentationsystem.mp4
725 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes ago
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Uploaded new version of Qinics presentation, with audio added from the phone recording (starts at 50 seconds, slight drift with sync): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGN18I8pwh0

Uploaded new version of Whisperers documentation team greetings, with fixed audio: https://youtu.be/9LpzYdIBpwI
725 days, 15 hours, 27 minutes ago
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@Smn,

> The only thing we had to cut in the end from presentations was turn of the year - commented in the end of the last broadcast, apologies to @Ryder Cross for that.

Any details on the Turn of the Year or the FacePalm of the Year?
725 days, 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
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And the Memories just keep on growing!

- New songs on soundtrack!
- New pictures!
- New short films on PlanetsCon2017 in youtube (link in the bottom of the page with some directions)!

https://planetscon2017.net/memories/

(Okay okay, I'll promise this was the last update bump in the activity feed about Memories updates!)
725 days, 1 hours, 51 minutes ago
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@Commander+Koski,

> https://planetscon2017.net/memories/

Lots of nice images. I'll put some of them into the PlanetsCon page here, probably this weekend.

If there's an image that anyone believes embodies this PlanetsCon, please PM me.
722 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes ago
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> Lots of nice images. I'll put some of them into the PlanetsCon page here, probably this weekend.

I got to this early.

http://planets.nu/#/howtoplay/contrib-planetscon-2017

If someone feels another image should be added, please PM me.

Special thanks to the numerous photographers for providing the images I added.
721 days, 11 hours, 31 minutes ago
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Some closing thoughts from me now that there's been a week to figure out what worked and what didn't.

First of all, my thanks to @Iso-t and @Commander+Koski for joining as organizers and putting in a huge lot of effort to make everything work so well! Big thanks to our quests for bringing in that positive, happy atmosphere and proactively helping out where needed, including @McLaughlins imperial shuttle to the airport and back :) I never thought the place could stay so neat and tidy for the whole weekend but things seemed to just magically work out!

I'm really happy we opted for the camp format with two nights and lodging on-site. The setup required a lot of things to be taken care of manually, but the upside of that was the freedom we had in making the most out of the time used: lots of discussions, presentations, 3(!) full-blown BBQ meals, 2 nights with sauna and Jacuzzi, a guided walk in the woods etc. Altogether 47 hours of proper Planets time! This was a format I can't recommend enough for future events!

90% of the supplies were ordered online, packed up by stuff and picked up by Koski in his Falcon on the way to the Con, this worked like a charm! The arrival of ~20 bags of groceries at once to the small kitchen was surprisingly chaotic, kudos to Faqudi for taking the lead in sorting the arrivals out. The last 10% was bought and gathered by us when we realized something was needed. This was, all things considered, a surprisingly painless effort in the end.

The most stressful part was getting the costs and ticket prices balanced. How many people would we have on which day and how much do we need to invest in food and beer, and how to split the venue cost? After getting enough commitment for preliminary pricing it was safe to book the venue and we decided to make the quality of food and drink the flexible part in cost. As a practical example, when Mursu and SMI signed up just before the camp, that money went directly to beef steaks and craft beer :) In the end we had a slight imbalance in total cost, but as we got some private sponsorship, everything worked out pretty well.

I'm somewhat biased in saying this, but I felt the presentations were really good and solid. Big big thanks to everyone involved! We had both width and depth in the material, including some discussion and thought-provoking stuff and some hardcore specialist presentations. And Emork wrapped up Saturday perfectly with a fun and energizing quiz.

Experience from previous Cons was that the presentation schedule can never hold and this was the case here too. Future Cons please take note :) Many presentations took longer than we thought and also the scheduling of the lunch was a bit off, so we finished rather late on Saturday and still had material for Sunday. The 'Turn of the Year' we had to drop altogether in the end because of simply not having the time. We only got one non-organizer entry for the competition, @Ryder+Cross got the title with his entry, detailed in the third post here: http://planets.nu/discussion/planets-con-finland-turn-of-the-year-and-face-palm-of

The streaming itself worked pretty well, but here I only later realized we could have set it up so much better! As the presentations were 'Hangouts on Air', we should've had the content presented directly into the Hangout, and have the presenter (with web camera) as a caller into the Hangout, so the broadcast would've had the slides in perfect clarity and the presenter visible too. This is something for next PlanetsCon to improve on!

Audio was lost again from one presentation and thus the seemingly paranoid backup plan of recording the audio separately turned out to be a good idea after all.

Another thing that worked really well was the website. One central place to push out information to is crucial for the conference day, as the schedule lives and online followers depend on finding the updated info to catch the streams. However something we failed to do (it was on my list but forgotten!) was deciding and promoting a central place for online commentary. Now the commentary got scattered around and much of it was not detected until way later. Again, something to improve on in the future.

Summa summarum - it was great :) Definitely joining the next European conference
721 days, 9 hours, 12 minutes ago
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I would like to also thank everyone involved in organising this event and also to everyone who attended. It really was an excellent example of everyone working together for the benifit of all.

The event exceeded my expectations.

I am now back in London after my 3,000 mile round trip on motorbike to Finland and back. A great adventure all round.

720 days, 20 hours, 40 minutes ago
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> when Mursu and SMI signed up just before the camp, that money went directly to beef steaks and craft beer

Craft beer? What happened to the Klingon Ale? :)
720 days, 16 hours, 12 minutes ago
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There was plenty of Klingon Ale. And craft beer, regular beer, different ciders, different wines, lemonades, juice, Robotic oils, lonkero... actually, of our supplies, half of our budget went to different beverages, although we had breakfasts and snacks for two days and three barbeques for about 20 people.
720 days, 12 hours, 52 minutes ago
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SMN's homebrew was yummy and he brought plenty of it. Thx again!
720 days, 11 hours, 57 minutes ago
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Wow, so cool to see many people! Now I know how a person I argue in forums looks like :-)

No girls? ;)

720 days, 11 hours, 17 minutes ago
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a bunch of men in a hot tub under the caption of "Be merry". Made me chuckle.
703 days, 1 hours, 27 minutes ago
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Qinics Excel for loading in-game messages is now uploaded into the https://planetscon2017.net/presentations page! Have fun!
683 days, 7 hours, 8 minutes ago
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Just arrived home safely from PlanetsCamp2017!

Awesome journey through Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Germany before arriving in the Netherlands again!
683 days, 6 hours, 53 minutes ago
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Now THAT'S some impressive vacation journey...
683 days, 6 hours, 47 minutes ago
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dark lord
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And I thought my journey was over the top.

Well done that man.
683 days, 6 hours, 41 minutes ago
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Sounds like the best preparation to play as Colonial commander ^^

by the way ^^ whats your proposal as loction for the next Con in Europe?
683 days, 6 hours, 16 minutes ago
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@Frostriese Somewhere like Split, so I can go hiking in countries like Croatia, Slovenia, Albania.